Race wars have started in Spain
| w*stern *urope*ns have been socialized into meekness for centuries on end, only way i'd believe that is if they were getting colonized by moors again
| >"Race War"
>*looks inside*
>localized riot
>many such cases
| and who's racing?
| It's just criminals and criminal-allies protesting on the streets
*Yawns* such a nothingburger
Nothing ever happens btw
| Oooh I’m a criminal ally
| I live in a low income housing environment x)
| The idea of a "race war" and human races is, like religion, what the ruling class constructed to fool the ruled class.
There is only one war going on: Class war. And currently it looks really bad for the ruled class, which is distracted, divided and fooled through entirely made up concepts like religion, nation or race.
| Racists, Religious fanatics and nationalists are either smart members of the ruling class or their dumb dogs.
Gain class consciousness and abolish all the other stupid identities, given by your authorities. They are a much bigger threat to you, than your class brothers and sisters all over the world. They decide about war and peace and let you, your friends and beloved ones and families kill each other for their interests. They'll shake their clean hands after any war.
| >>1064105
The phenomenon you describe is primarily an US-Phenomenon. Or do you think black people are overrepresented in various European or Asian sports, too?
And for the US, there are a couple of reasons why things are how they are, which have less to do with "races" but a lot with historical, false racist believes.
Peoples actions manifest religious believes. While a growing number of believers and the size of their temples matters, it doesn't make their religious dogmas true.
| Most Black people in the U.S. are the ancestors of Africans, who were forcefully brought to the continent to work as slaves for white colonists.
Many slave traders were also black people and became incredibly rich with selling "their" people. Black people in the U.S. are not representative for black people in general. They were from the beginning members of lower classes, sold by "their" upperclass to members of the rising white/western upperclass.
| >>1064109
I am not talking about the US.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1327747/diversity-english-professional-football/
| >>1064109
>US-Phenomenon
>implying racism is an exclusively american issue
>implying american racism is even about black people
jesus christ kid, go back to /int/
| >>1064113
Back then the US was part of the British Empire, which fell and became a big natural aicraftcarrier for the new US Empire. So it doesn't really make sense to distinguish between them in this case. They share a common colonialist history. People call it the "angle-saxon" world. So if you count in their once de-jure, now only defacto colonies, black people are not really overrepresented in those teams.
| >>1064114
No, US-American racism is not exclusive in general. Of course there similarities to the universal issue of racism in other parts of the world. But there are also things that are historically unique in the US (like there are unique aspects about racism in other countries)
| Okay, what about the fucking OLYMPICS
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/268060016_The_evolution_of_speed_in_athletics_Why_the_fastest_runners_are_black_and_swimmers_white#:~:text=A%20height%20advantage%20in%20sprinting,of%20mass%20from%20the%20ground%20(
| >>1064117
So, according to your logic there is a "black human race" that can be distinguished from a "white humane race", because *some* black peoples achievements differ from *some* white peoples achievements in highest level competitive sports (which has nothing to do with average people, no matter if black or white)?
Again: there are many cultural, social and historical, and yes even genetical, factors for this. But this does not proof at all that there are human races.
| Race Theories are scientifically bullshit made up by "enlightned" europeans who needed a ideological legitimization for slavery against universal principles of humanism.
It's the same hack religious feudal societies make by distinguishing between true and untrue believers and introducing the idea of "divine right", while all their holy writings and preaches say their god(s) love/hate all humans equally.
| Are black people also "overrepresented" in sport teams of countries which have NO african-american colonialist background like US, UK, France, etc.?
Your race concepts has no purpose in reality except deluding you from the actual issues in this era. While you talk about races, others talk about true believers of the one and only god, others talk about the glory of "their" country and nobody really understands they 'll all suffer from the same global political economical system.
| So there is no "race war" in Spain or elsewhere. There is no organized "race" who declared war to another organized "race". There are white racists dogs though, that think their also white masters will throw them a big bone under the kitchen table, if the behave like good doggies and hunt down black people.
| "Go little doggy, get the evil black man! He'll steal your house/wife/car or prevents you from getting those."
That's how the class enemy talks, while he steals your house/wife/car or prevents you from getting those.
| My point is there are genetical differences between various people on different territories. On some territories survived smarter people (asians, whites), on some more physically capable (blacks). Race is the same concept as class, class doesn’t physically exist. It is a word for a group of people that have something in common.
It is convenient to call a group of people by BLACKS because they have black skin. It not just colour there are A LOT of biological differences.
| "Look at those sinful white people, with their wealth and all their decadent rotten societies. Ignoring that all was built on the shoulders of your ancestors. It's time to get back the good live they stole/withhold from you."
That's how the class enemy talks to black people, while he steals/witholds the good live from them.
| These differences _will_ result in conflicts. Because biological differences dictate cultural differences as well. Ignoring those differences is the same as ignoring reality.
| My girl, yes, the powerful exploit the less powerful. I am not arguing with that. I am complaining about the fact that races don’t exist while they obviously are.
| >>1064126
Black people are as diverse as asians and europeans are. They aren't in general superior in sports as asians aren't in general superior in maths or europeans aren't in general superior in any else way (as their race theories makes them believe).
The borders between what you call "races" are more fluent than you think and globalization is making them even more fluent.
| Are people from Sri Lanka Asians or Black to you? How do you think about Indians. Also people in Okinawa have a darker skin then in other parts of japan. Are they better runners now and worse in mathematics? Also while North, West, East and Southeuropeans are "white" Southeuropeans have more in common with northafricans than with northeuropeans.
| Yeah, "classes" are also made up by humans, but they are more relevant to political and economical issues of mankind than the idea "races" which, again has no scientific evidence or clear definition that is of any use for anything but dividing people artifically.
The divide of classes is real, the division of races is fake.
| >>1064128
Those "cultural" conflicts are artifically pushed, while at the same time the cultural differences declines through capitalist driven globalization. Look at how uniform urban centres look worldwide. Are you concerned, because K-Pop and Bollywood recently were added to the cultural dominance of Mickey Mouse and Mac-D?
| >>1064132 just like any word for a group, it has limitations. On _average_ people of different races are different. Just look at the metrics of height. Yes, in certain places it can vary even within a race but on a bigger picture it is nothing.
| TND
| Also, while individuals may be limited by their genetics, whole populations aren't. The more people belong to a group, the less meaning individual strenghts/weaknesses become, since their genetic diversity increases. And people are very cooperative in general - as long no idiots start dividing them with stupid ideas.
| >>1064136
"Race" has not only "limitations", it simply has no scientific basis or any practical use. Except to do make people harm each other, following the "divide and conquer" game, played by the ruling class.
| >>1064135 I disagree. Cultural conflicts are based on stereotypes and stereotypes are a survival mechanism. I have a stereotype that if petting a wild tiger will kill me. There is also a chance that a particular tiger won’t kill me though. For races it is the same thing. If I walk in a black ghetto at night I will be robbed. Maybe not but my ancestors had stereotypes and survived.
| >>1064141
Humans have shaped their environment for thousands of years now in a way that those survival mechanisms you talk of don't work anymore. If you prefer to live like an animal, go to the jungle and have fun, but leave people alone who learned to acknowledged the benefits and the potential of civilization.
| >>1064140 I agree the more people a label includes the less meaning it has. However this is not the case for race. If I tell you I am white, or black, or asian you WILL have a general idea about how I look.
| >>1064141
A black ghetto is not a ghetto because people who live there are black. You can be careful without having racist stereotypes. And if you think, you are more secure in a ghetto with "asian" or "white" people, you were never in a ghetto. I grew up in a "ghetto" btw. and believe me, the really few people of color there were the less problematic there.
| >>1064145
Yeah, because I'm not immune to hundreds of years cultivated racist stereotypes. But again, the chance is high, that those racist expectations won't help in way. This "general Idea" you'll have, will be of low use in reality, since "asian", "european" and "african" "races" cannot be clearly separated from each other. Again: the continents in those terms share dynamic borders between each other, while having other borders within them.
| If i tell you, I'm asian, do you have a siberian, japanese, chinese, vietnamese, indian, turkish, jewish or arab person in mind? How does it help you to make any conclusions about my quality as a person?
| The impact in real life caused by the allegedly "racial" difference of an black olymic gold medal number one athlete and a top tier asian mathematician is nothing compared to the impact that the wealth difference of a billionaire and a lower- or even middle-classes person wealth - no matter what "race" they belong to.
| >>1064143 why do you think that biology that shaped human civilisation for millions of years suddenly doesn’t work? I think hell yeah it does. I think the best way to move forward is to acknowledge it and avoid delusions like something changed over 3000 years of civilisation. I think it’s okay to fear something different from you.
| >>1064152
Civilization is not driven by biology. It contradicts biology. According to biology we are supposed to live by hunting and gathering, just like all the other animals. Civilization means mastery of and emancipation from nature. This includes biology. The usage of fire, creation of language, agricultural revolution shaped the environment in a way that those hunter and gatherer mechanisms become less meaningful.
| >>1064151 hm. Well, yes, I can see your point but I don’t think there is a real conflict of races. Whites in Norway don’t fight Blacks in Chad and nobody is pushing for this as far as I know.
Actually at this point I don’t know what are we arguing about. I thought that you deny genetical differences but this is not the case.
| Honestly, I am surprised at how chill and polite you were. I acted more arrogant than you for sure. Thank you.
| >>1064157
No, I don't deny differences. I just deny a believe system, that fetishizes those differences in a way, that serves clearly a different purpose.
| >>1064158
You didn't seem arrogant to me at all. Maybe don't try to hard to read between the lines and don't assume the worst of people who don't seem to agree with you. I know its hard, since I'll have to permanently struggle with it too.
| >>1064160 why is it such a problem for you anyway? I don’t quite understand the class struggle idea. Well, like I said, the rich class has things better than the poor class. Sure, but it’s not like your class is set in stone, right? You can become rich enough and live life comfortably.
Yes, there are ignorant people like me who would prefer to cloud themselves in race wars but I am fine with that. Being ignorant is the best thing ever. So, yeah, why?
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