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our generation's music, punk rock, philosophy, and non-conformity.
| what does anyone have to say about these topics?
| the philosophy of punk, our generation's music and superficiality and conformity, and the philosophy of punk rock and non-conformity?
| i'm sorry if my thread is so out of place, in an anonymous, vaporwave, cyberwave, lofi-hip-hop, and cyberpunk-filled chat site.
| It seems to largely spring from a disillusioned post-post-post-modern lifestyle shrouded in deep irony as the original way of life from which our ancestors come is so far removed from the reality of our culture that it feels more like a fantasy than history.
| I think the internet dramatically changed the dynamic. It used to be that listening to any kind of "alternative" music meant something in itself, it was a lifestyle, because mainstream/wide distribution was so centralized and commercialized. You had to be part of a scene to do it. Today things like Bandcamp mean that anyone can distribute whatever across the world, if people like it.
| So now, while music still can represent nonconformism or conformism, or various subcultures, they're less of a lifestyle thing and more diffused. I can listen to vaporwave, punk, industrial music and metal without really being connected to any music scene except for the occasional show.
| well in a sense punk, or not so punk, depending on how big the music genre is and the subculture involved in it, it all is conformity in a sense, for instance, how hipsters conform to their own culture as to not conform to the "normies'".
| how punks conform to their own subculture to not conform to the mainstream.
| by being part of the punk rock scene you are conforming, and in a sense your own individualism, is somewhat repressed.
| and like what d30b4d said, we can listen to all sorts of music without conforming to their subcultures, or being connected to their beliefs, lifestyles, or idealogies, but what i think really matters the most is the messages, and concerns that the subcultures portray, and on this factor, i think punk is a really great music genre because of it's deeper meaning, deeper passions, and it's rebelliousness against a superficial, "tyrannical" society.
| on the other hand, almost all of modern pop music and rap portray are messages that approve of immorality, profanity, hedonistic sex, substance abuse, superficiality, materialism, and egoism.
| music, supposedly a great medium, way, and format to express one self is put to waste by such insolent nonsense, and it truly shows how terrible the human nature is.
| Could be that you're all overthinking this. Punk is punk is punk. \m/
| punk is punk is very punk BUT FUCK POP-PUNK WHY'D YOU HAVE TO RUIN IT!
| > pretentious-sounding title
> replies are good discourse actually
Nice. And I'm not being ironic. Good posts folks.
| lol.
| and no i did not make this chat to be pretentious, i actually wanted a little "dialectic" going on.
| who is "our generation" what's the age base supposed to be
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