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| I've started a simular thread on /u/ already but it died under a flood of other posts and I guess /lain/ is more appropriate?
Anyways, I'm hosting a cyberpunk 2020 game for friends 'cause we wanna try out the system and some contast from the fantasy stuff. To modernize the setting and making it less jaring I decided to set it in Glitch City and kind of fuse Read only Memories with Cyberpunk 2020, though I'm stomped with some things and wanted to get more input

| An other reason why I wanted to do this is that some of my friends are fond of the theme of "Machine Sentience". I already recommended VA-11 Hall-A and ROM to them but I also wanted to funnel this into the game, make Lilims a playable thing and stuff.

| I'm currently making a writeup of how we got from today (with what we know) to 2077 Glitch City.... like a quick timeline of important events.
After some discussion and reflection on the lore of the game I decided that Glitch City should be like a rebuild Seattle after the earthquakes that destroyed much along the pacific ocean mentioned in VA-11 Hall-A (which is why Neo-San Francisco is a thing)

| My main gripe right now is that 2064/2065 True AI became a thing, right? That far I remembered from Read Only Memories.
Now VA-11 Hall-A roughly takes place 2073 and 2077, since Dana hasn't seen Lexi in 7-8 years (eversince they stopped being partners in the NSFPD) and she was seen in 2064:Read Only Memories, though I can't remember if there was a date given for that encounter nor could I find anything on it.

| So, when did the AI Reformation Program start? When did they make amends to laws (I think it was in the HPA) to prevent Lilim from looking too human? when exactly did the "Collective Source" become a thing? When did the whole Lilith thing happen, where do Lilims actually come from like are they being sold into slavery everywhere else basically? Are ROMs still a thing or are they all now also Lilims?
So many questions

| My main problem is that in GC everyone acts like Lilims have been a part of the population for like at least a decade, though the timeline would suggest that its really just a recent thing. Like, if Dana stopped working for the NSFPD shortly after 2065, it'd be just 7-8 Year for a shitton of stuff to happen and that is way too short.
I really wish there was more info on a wiki or something...

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| IIRC it's mentioned that GC is ahead of the times on Lilim. It varies elsewhere. Honestly, a lot might just be built as part of government economic policy. Imagine if you could just build fully-functioning people to participate in your nation's economy.

| >>412165 Turing was given the chance to consider it's gender, yes? He might've decided he was a she instead and called herself Lillith for whatever reason. As a result, her children (the ROMs) are now called Lilims, like nephilim.

| >>412806
Thats what it sounded like to me too.
I guess there are some advantages on getting perfect workers and stuff. There was also this one AE article where a girl says lilims are better lovers because she can just make her perfect partner. Thou, that leaves questions about free will and AI Rights, since they might be bought by a person, but they will sooner or later develop a will of their own and might just want to leave and that is a disaster for whoever paid for that lilim

| >>412806
I'm currently going through the whole game again, turning everything anyone says about lilim over and looking into any details. Specifically Deal talks a lot about it during the Prologue.

| >>412808
I think its more likely that the "New Blue" Ending is actually canon. Since Turings Personality is dependent on the hardware and turing basically fused with Big Blue during the Ending, It stands to reason that Turing could become Lilith.
ROMs still gained sentience in that ending, so I think that ending could be canon to VA-11 Hall-A, especially since going by Turings MO of hidding, it would make sense that it isn't public knowledge where Lilims came from