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How good is Altered Carbon?
| I gave up after the first few episodes. Visual aesthetics and world building are perfect Cyberpunk and really well executed but the characters suck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
| >>260220 that's a trend i'm noticing with a lot of modern cyberpunk, tbh. the characters all feel like they were written by edgy teens
| The first few episodes were great. The show lost its crispy flavor by about the 6th or 7th episode, and kind of landed on its face by the last 2 episodes. Overall 6/10, good enough to finish watching but not good enough to recommend to most people.
| >>262260 That's what pisses me off lmao. Cyberpunk worldbuilding is cool, maybe a little clichè, but so many times the characters and plot suck ass
| Like some others here said, I'd recommend watching it. Beginning is REALLY good, and the last two episodes are shit. Characters aren't anything special, but it's still worth it. I also loved the inclusion of Karate by BABYMETAL.
| Well, thanks guys I'll at least give it a shot but I won't keep my hopes up
| It's shit. Has all the aesthetics but everything else sucks. Maybe if they stopped trying to sound smart and focused on creating an actual interesting story and characters we might finally have a decent high budget cyberpunk piece.
| Differing opinion here, but I actually loved it. As the others said it had really good aesthetics, but I actually found the characters to be pretty interesting. They emulated what would be average class roles in a cyberpunk society like the one they had in the story pretty well, even if they didn't all have the most advanced backstories. Not every character needs to be a puzzle inside of a puzzle to be interesting, that's unrealistic anyway. To me the action and mystery was great.
| As well, I found the story to be pretty cool too, definitely threw in an unexpected curveball at the end with the last arc that I won't spoil for you.
I may be opening myseld up to hate here, but find so many anons on every board ever are always quick to say that something doesn't have an "interesting story" without actually ever elaborating on what an "interesting story" is to them. It makes it seem like the internet just hates 95% of every fictional story ever, lol.
| *myself, *i find so
| Its easy to be a hater and call something out as being shit, it isn't as easy to provide actually valid constructive criticisms.
Food for thought. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
| >>264595
But actually doing something how it should be done and not just let my pent up frustrations out on something or someone totally unrelated is a lot harder than doing what I just described.
Food for thought. (I agree with you though.)
| >>37376e I think they did provide valid constructive criticisms. The characters and story should have been better developed.
| They made a few minor changes from the book that were frankly unescessary. It is very much produced by Netflix.
| hard boiled genre with a sci-fi setting isn't cyberpunk
| Id change >>37376e
>>266729 Meh, but I mean like how. Like in what examples were the characters and story shallow?
>>266769 Never read the book, I guess I could see that if I had.
>>266775 What do you mean? Please clarify.
I'm not saying that your guys' viewpoints are bad, I'm just asking that you clarify because I don't quite see what you guys are seeing with it.
>>266589 Hahaha, this.
| >>267385 it's a detective story where the detective sucks, can't investigate for shit, and just stumbles upon the solution out of nowhere.
The religious themes had the depth of a just turned atheist 13yo rant on reddit.
The acting was bad. It felt like a cheap soap opera. Kinnaman tries too hard to be Philip Marlowe, but his badass act looks more like he's constipated. I couldn't feel sympathy for any of the characters.
| >>267385 but on a different note, the visuals were nice. Nothing amazing or deeply interesting like other pieces of the genre, even though it took everything from them, but at least was better cyberservice than the mess they did with the murican GitS visuals.
After 2049 and GitS, I thought Netflix would finally landmark a "cyberpunk revival" with this and Mute, but eh, I guess I was wrong.
| The writing was clunky at times, but overall I thought it was decent. The ending kinda sucked though, felt bad for ortega.
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| I absolutely loved the book, only watched the first episode of the netflix series and didn't like it at all because of how it diverges from the book.
| I watched it through, great for the first few episodes and the ending kinda sucked but I watched it all. The whole gimmick of the show having "stacks" is never used in the show really. Good show though.
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| Those who've seen it, how is it?