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Why is not there steampunk?!
| New board must be added. I'm sure most agree with me
| What is steam?
| Steampunk holds zero relevance here. Go back to reddit.
| Cyberpunk has common themes, such as over use of technology, oppression, massive corporations and corrupt governments. These are very relevant today, while steampunk has no auch common themes. A board like th at would just be talking about the athstetic, but no real substance.
| Yeah. Steampunk's an aesthetic. Cyberpunk is a narrative genre. Considering that we're a text-only board, there's not much point in /steam/
| Wasn't steampunk the old cyberpunk of the late 19th/early 20th century? I'm not saying it has a place here but it says a lot about the importance of keeping cyberpunk it's identity, if steampunk degraded to aesthetics so can cyberpunk if we're not careful..
| >>af6bd2 i used to be into steampunk, kinda? there was a lot of focus on adventure and exploration of the unknown. but as you said, it's degraded into aesthetics
tbh i don't think cyberpunk will go through the same thing. good cyberpunk is less about the style and all about the people/cyborgs/sentient AI living in it
| >>228707
This is true. What was steampunk 100 years ago, is cyberpunk today. Same pipe dreams, same delusions, different technology.
It will all remain only aesthetic at the end, as people realise the respective dreams to be what they really are: dreams. While steampunk is dead technologically for steam is not the latest tech anymore, so is cyberpunk going to end too as the tech it promotes is not new and shiny anymore. It has been said before that c.p. is dead already as well.
| Streampunk is really cool but I think it's not as relevant as cyberpunk right now.
It might be more important in a distant future if somehow our scientific heritage or emerging cultures make us reconsiderate some old technologies.
| The modern conception of steampunk is all steam- and no -punk. Rich Victorian assholes with coggy contraptions and no regards for the proles beneath them. Cyberpunk hasn't drifted so far from the roots of its name, keeping it much more relevant to society.
Personally, I'll always have a place in my heart for dieselpunk, even though it usually sucks.
| I've always been a fan of Nekopunk.
| [anything]punk soon falls out of fashion when people get out in real life to earn a living. It is then when they realise there is nothing to wish for in a low life setting, having now come to truly know that what is really wanted is to get out of such a state of being.
Thus what has now remained of steampunk is the aesthetic of it, which (surprise!) can be increased not by lowlives, but victorian high class and sofistication, fashion, etc. It is now for the educated only.
| Ok. Thanks so you're all absolutely correct, yes it's my fault
| I'd say there's more to steampunk than that. Unsurprisingly it seems quite popular in London, and apart from the aesthetic it's about a slow life made slow by the lack of digital technology, and a vast world made vaster by the spirit of adventure (and a hint of nostalgic imperialism), and an appreciation of the handmade and cobbled-together, and plenty of allegories using its familiar-yet-unfamiliar setting for social commentary. Also fetishes
| Ah yes. Steampunk fetishes are awesome.
| http://www.kenmarcus.com/promos/nicotine-marquisdevice_steampunk-sex/image/km23685.jpg
http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_meeeapmgpS1re60g9o1_500.jpg
http://www.fantasmagoria.eu/images/uploader/th/the-crypt-gas-mask-harness-1.jpg
| >>228707 not at all, SteamPunk is inspired by Jule Verne style books, the industrial revolution period and the explosions of idea that this period brought. But it wasn't called steampunk back then. It was called adventure litterature or romantism. To be fair I would like to know who really popularized steampunk by bringing back this setting. If I thrust wikipedia, it began in the '80s, but I think it' s kind of strange how it doesn't have any real founding piece like cyberpunk.
| >>236825
It didn't have a founding piece because it was something that all society was living and aspiring for. Jule Verne books, Indiana Jones and Lara Croft adventures, exploration of the unknown, John Carter of Mars... It was not a low life movement, rather an aspiration of all society which naturally saw it all based on the technology of the moment.
While cyberpunk is filled with sadness, conflict and war, steampunk was/is with curiosity, beauty and discovering the unknown.
| >>237223 what you are describing is more akin to the adventure genre. Like cyberpunk is sf/dystopia, steampunk is more adventure/uchronia. But it misses the colonial feeling of the 19c period and focus more on the wonders of the world. Anyway, i'm saying it doesn't have a founding piece because most movement like this have one. It creates the theme and is used as a platform that other authors uses to develop the genre further. Which for me might contribute to the feeling of ->
| >>238585 messyness this movement has. With cyberpunk, I know what i'm going for, with steampunk, except for the aesthetic, it could be anything; social commentary with class structure and colonialism? Dishonored. Adventures jule verne style? Any steampunk comics you can find. I really feel like it just need a big piece of media that hit the mainstream to fully explode and become the wonderboy little brother of cyberpunk.
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| I think it must be on danger and obviusly it's better than cyberpunk