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Will we be in a Cyberpunk society within our lifespans?
| Depends what you are looking for in tech.
I would answer 'no' to the OP question if we are looking for true AI, mind-machine interface (this brings human memories upload/download and pluglike connections of the net to the nervous system), fully autonomous robots, people giving up body parts and organs to replace them with enhanced technological equivalents. Some of these above are still far in the future and the last one is probably never gonna happen.
| The last one is only improbable because of ethical concerns. Otherwise, we have the power to upgrade ourselves already.
| >>162300
I actually do not give a flying fuck about ethics. But this concept of 'upgrading' anything of mine with something technological, that is an absurdity. Would someone replace willingly an arm for a very advanced prosthetic? An eye for technoeye? Stomach for a hitech digestive system? The heart for an artificial one?
I seriously doubt it is ethics at work here.
| real life cyborg here;
you can upgrade your body without sacrificing your natural bits. see biohacking
| >>162568 It is not about attachment. It is about an overall balance of utility, versatility, ease of use, ease of maintenance and amount of care and servicing needing done, power consumption and energy source, integrated sensory systems for workloads or conditions that would result in damage. It is about all these things combined.
| I forgot to mention cost and maintenance/repair/replacement costs.
| Since most of the cyberpunk stuff is already here or on it's way, the only thing i'm waiting to say we are officially in cyberpunk-land, is megacorp having the rights to buy territories and settle there own legal system on it, basically giving them the right to have small countries and bypass any legal system with monney aka Shadowrun.
| >>162771 Now that is a little bit hard to come by. Usually that is how states or city states get formed too. And that usually involve either a long grudge, or heavy conflict. Come to mind Catalonia, kurds, palestine, california.
| In 10 years they invented VR anime girls sucking your cock so why not
| >>162762 yes, I've thought about all of that, so yes, provided I could of course maintain a high tech prosthetic, again, I would gladly do
| >>162845 For me the body is as the ancients said it, the temple of pleasure. I would never want to not have any small bit of it. I see it as a sort of mutilation. Totally unacceptable.
| >>162333 are you retarded? What if you dont have an arm to start with? Non functioning eyes? This is more of a backup than an upgrade.
| The retard is you. Read again fanboi. It is mentioned willfully giving up some part in exchange of a piece of tech. Not fixing a defect, like a missing arm or blindness or something in that ballpark.
| >>162855 Plus a tech like this would cripple the work place, you can be physically or mentally better than anyone at your work just by paying, it just cannot exist in a capitalist state because you can break equality with your wallet. And, if you are a good employee, the corp can offer you an aug in your contract physically chaining you to your boss because now the maintenance of your eyes depend on your job. Hell they could even take it back if you get fired.
| >>162884 That could be the case too. But somehow I do not think these things will make people better at something in the workplace. If physical strength will be needed, with such tech exoskeletons would be simpler to achieve. Mentally better... that is a hard one to swallow as in my opinion the nervous system and cognitive capabilities detailed knowledge is *far* future stuff. Such knowlwdge is needed in order to amplify the process of thought. We are talking hardcore scifi here.
| How I see it is that prosthetics, augments, etc, would be there to make up for normal body impairment for the vast majority of the cases. A lost arm, a defect in the legs from birth, blindness, partial deafness, spleen conditions. A very few would trade their normally functioning and healthy body piece for a technological electrometallic replacement. The rest will be fully intact and not only that but caring for their bodies to incredible proportions.
| Were already there, its just that facebook,google, amazon and apple are our megacorps.
| Those megacorps are still ultimately under the control of the government, not the other way around.
>inb4 "but muh lobbyists"
| Bump
| >>163732 How can one be an afficionado of cyberpunk and not be a fierce anti-capitalist? Save especially rare cases, cyberpunk has always been about those in power exploiting technology for power and personal profit. While it's true the government has higher authority, the (democratic) government is something we could change if it weren't for the power of lobbyists, whereas corporations are structured like authoritarian dictatorships, complete with nepotism, censorship of speech,
| >>163732
>>163885 and a vested interest in only enriching the upper echelons of the organization. The government that allows this is rotten to the core, and would be fiercely opposed by people like us.
The best chapter of a cyberpunk society will be its final chapter.
| >>163893
You are pretty much describing usa. Powerful corps, lobbying effectively the goverment, bussiness is more important than citizens. And when bussiness fails or goes bankrupt, fear not. They put failed ceos to become presidents. Why not, after all they even had actors for presidents before.
| >>162686
This. It's not as easy as simply installing an arm and it working well. The arm has to be able to work like a human limb, detail by detail in order to have an actual benefit. Otherwise it's just a piece of metal shaped like an arm hanging on your shoulder.
| We often overestimate the complexity of the human body due to our innate superiority complex. It can be replicated and improved. I'd bet this technology will be available within 30 years.
| I'm graduating with an IT degree with skills in AWS, Python, HTML, CSS, Javascript, SAP, and SQL. I'm struggling to find a job that doesn't pay homeless wages. Isn't that already cyberpunk?
| Idk
| >>166451 pretty much like it, I've seen people with only technician course get way more than people with bacharels and graduation
| If we could cryogenically freeze ourselfs maybe we could live to see the day of cyberpunk
| Try moving to China
| >>166451
Either that, or the effects of market over saturation, which was bound to happen eventually. :/
It's been happening for a few years now, in fact.
| >960035
>How can one be an afficionado of cyberpunk and not be a fierce anti-capitalist?
You don't have to agree with every detail of a creative work's message to be a fan of it overall.
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| The surveillance state is already mostly here, but the technology is still ages away AFAIK. Still, we're moving in a distressing direction as a society. Am I wrong, or is there some weight to my opinions?