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I wish women weren't evil

| It's actually my biggest dream.


| I wish i could control my anger.


| I wish i could control.. me


| I wish a fishe


| Men would have to stop being evil for that to become a possibility.


| Big incel energy lol


| Tomie vibes


| >>b4725b

How? Genuine question, how one would cause the other, I mean practically, not logically.


| Also, only now I realized I posted this on /d/ and I'm sorry for that.


| >>734594


| Probably thinking of women as evil isn't helping you with that, g/u/rl.


| Overgeneralization and an easy excuse.
Big incel energy.
Yeah we are "evil", not actual humans with own conception and reasoning.
Let me guess? We are also dumb so our reasoning is always bad and therefore evil?


| Big titties mean big evil


| Is slandering ~50% of the worlds population not evil?


| incels be incelling


| I've been an incel for 3 years, since I became unemployed. When I get a job, I'll be able to pay for a relationship again, if I can find a girl who's not blatantly evil. But I didn't have to go full neet to notice how poisonous women tend to be. I think I started realizing it at 16-17 years.

So, calling me incel because you thought it would be trendy, doesn't change women's behavior. That should be awfully clear by now.


| >>734833 I think you will find that if you talk to actual women it will turn out that they are equal in approximately the same proportions as everyone else. If you tell yourself that women are evil, they're going to appear more evil to you...


| >>734572 honestly only my friends are girls.. and i can't say that they are evil or so.. honestly they are always nice to me and don't judging me.. it is about person to person.. but you shouldn't generalising genders or have bad thoughts about them..


| >>037a00

I'll honestly keep that in mind, thanks.


| >>894503

I never had male friend, only girls. But even as friends, they ended backstabbing me in some ways. Like, ridiculing me to other people or acting like I don't exist at all. I just cut contact with them after this happens.


| Boys backstab aswell. There were boys who "confessed" to me and when i said no backstabbed me with saying mean things. It doesnt have anything to do with gender, really.

Also to the OP:
What do you mean "pay for a relationship"? Tbh this sounds like very conservative/weird way of thinking of "relationships". I mean other than maybe doing something like going out where do you have to pay for relationships?


| Also you still don't really say what exactly women do what makes them evil. You just call.them that but you don't specify. It could be that you yourself are a toxic person in some way (the conservative approach of "paying" kinda implies it too) that others notice and when they react in a way you doesnt like or understand you call them evil.


| Nobody is calling you an incel because it's trendy here. It just fits the description and general worldview of incels.


| >>734591 >>734594 >>734636 >>734648 >>734776 >>734818
ha
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| >>734950

I mean by "pay for a relationship" that rships are usually paid for, at least if you're male. I'm not into conservativism and I'd say it's more of a capitalist concept, where you literally have to pay for resources. Women tend to embody this very well.

Again, I'm currently unemployed. There's no way to have a relationship if you don't have your own source of income. There's no way to have anything at all in life, actually. My last rship ended because of that, obviously.


| >>b1182d

Well, hypergamy. Narcisism. Complete lack of respect for one's condition besides themselves. It's an unending list.

--

I realize it's easier to put the blame on me, since I can be "the nazi conservative incel who voted for Trump" or whatever floats your boat, but I'd say I'm just a common person getting on with life, as far as I can tell. Maybe not too different from you.


| >>b1182d

Nah, it's just trendy between women with inflatuated egos and effeminate progressivists who worship them. I just don't see how is that an insult.

To me, it's easily noticeable that the average man is an incel, since he's simply despised by women.


| you will never be a woman


| >>c47e47

Never tried to, indeed.


| >>734960
1: Maybe you dislike hypergamy, but I don't see how it could be considered evil. Who the hell is harmed by women having sex? What could be behind that statement other than "women are evil because they don't want to have sex with only me"? I don't want to call you an incel but you're making it hard.
2: Everybody is the other things to people they don't know. Everyone also has something they want you to hear. If you listen, you will find the chance for them to hear you.


| >>c0729f

You not seeing how hypergamy is a harmful attitude towards a partner (or mostly everyone) is a whole new and dangerous issue that I prefer not to extend. Besides, I already said I'm incel. I've been alone for 3y now, almost 4.

--

Guess I became too tired and stopped butting in on other people's business...


| >>735058 When you say hypergamy, do you mean like cheating?


| >>735058
how in my gaping ass is responding "I'm not going to tell you why hypergamy is evil" after I asked even worth writing a post for? could you even tell me why you dislike it, let alone call it evil, if you tried? if you want women to be less evil, maybe you should stop demonizing them???


| Incels fucking kill yourselves 2021 challenge

the very fact that you dumb fucking losers throw around terms like "hypergamy" shows that you are perfectly able and willing to internalise info, you ust cherrypicked wjatever braindead, MRA, Molyneux/Peterson take coddled your injured worldview


grow the fuck up and stop being afraid of "uwu mean woman" you absolute PANSIES


| i mean this thread is called "women are evil" and litwrally anyone is taking it seriously?! Dawg stop fucking whining, get over the like single chick who rejected you and set you on this path, and just get laid. It isnt just women, literally no one wants to fuck with the baggage of a serious relationship anymore because no one even wants to get married anymore. Learn to take it on the chin and move on to more fun people or whine on meganiche anon messageboards your choice


| >>735106 i lost hope i humanity so i take even trolls serios little


| I guess it's just easier not to address the problem, given some counterpoints I found here.

Just being a sociopath and acting like nothing's wrong and all that. I will unironically try that.


| >>735134
"being a sociopath" oh my god shut up and stop self/diagnosing based on your cursory read of a wiki article

here are the facts: you were lied to
Life is not an 80s movie where being a tryhard possessive dick gets you the girl
Life is not a 50s dream of high school sweethearts and 2.5 kids

Life is an uncertain mess where all of us are concerned primarily with getting ours. Accept that and act accordingly. That doesnt mean be a callous dick, it means...


| ...dont feel stung or entitled when life doesnt hand you a dream babe on a platter. People have been miserable forever. Believing this newage whiny mra dogshit that it's somehow women's fault is GUARABTEED to see you blackpilled and cucked i fucking promise you


| i say all this because i believe in us all and know we can all do better. Stand up, man up, look forward, and roll with the punches. You have to if you want to grow and progress and it is extremely sad to see ppl still very clearly just AFRAID of women


| >>735153

I believe the usage of sociopathy as a therm has to do with multiple social masks (obviously an unhealthy approach) to deal with different social spaces, but I might be wrong, it wasn't a medical statement by any means.

I know life's not a movie, dude, thanks. Also, thank god I stopped being a possessive dumbass on my teenage years. You're referring to a scarecrow to sustain your point, but I'll keep minding your words.


| >>735154

I never had a dreambabe on a platter and I never will. Again, you need to go back to your scarecrow where I'm somewhat a lost teenager who watched MGTOW videos on YouTube and became impressed.

I'm sorry, but I'm not. I had girlfriends before. I Interact with women daily. And I'd be an absolute cuck if I didn't started noticing some dangerous pattern on their behavior.


| >>735155

So, you believe I have no right to be afraid of something that puts me in an unhealthy spot because I should "man up"? You didn't have to go full Ben Shapiro to dose your self-destructive pill to me. It was already showing.


| >>735159
Ah yes

It is "ben shapiro self destruction" to point out that the behaviours you are accusing women broadly of are in no way exclusive to their sex and that you gotta understand how to navigate this post 9/11 world and not just blame women

Like my dude "women are evil because i noticed a pattern in the women in my life" doesnt track. The common denominator there is yiu regardless.

And if it walks and talks like an edgy adolescent mra it gets the spray bottle like one


| literally everything you accuse women of men are equally guilty of. We are avaricious, rapacious, greedy and bloodthirsty. We put thibgs that dont concern our wellbeing or pleasure out of our minds and at most generally do the bare minimum to assist other classes of people. We are driven by wealth primarily, for our own amusement and for the sake of accruing women, not because they like money, but because we like their asses.

Dont fucking pretend we're stoic saints dawg its sad


| >>735161

What should be the reference point in my life if not myself?

Like, congrats to men who are happilly married and congrats to the single ones. I can't live on their shoes and they can't live on mine.


| >>735162

I'm not a saint, but I feel I should take pride in my way of living, since I am genuinely concerned about not fucking up someone's life. I believe that's the least I could do while on this earth.


| >>735163
Okay so you understand that subjective experiences are not objective experiences. Already on the right track.

You're like the flipside of a stung woman saying "all men are pigs" and it's embarrassing


| >>735165

Ok. I don't see what made you angry about the post, tho, besides women worshipping, but wish you the best anyways.


| >>735168
"women worshipping" says the guy si cucked he thinks women are evil but still laments how he wishes they werent (si he could have one that part is obvious)

and i already explained this. Learn to read bud. I find men that are simpering incels that wjhine about femoid hypergamy beyond repugnant. It's like whining that someone is cheating just because they can beat you in a fighter. Git gud at lifw or git used to being more depressed and more maladapted. Your choice im outie


| so* x2^ lel


| >>735169

Is it cucked to hope that some things / some people could be better? You got this salty just because I pointed out your bootlicking? 'Cause you're confortable when women use you as a tool and seeing someone who doesn't agree with said hypergamy makes you mad? I'm literally just a stranger in an anonymous board. If it works well for you, than what I say has no practical value.


| The way I see it, life would be better if people, >specially women, who are masters in using folks as stairs< (like you said, they can "beat me in a fight and it's not cheating") could simply have more respect for each other's conditions.

And I'll keep doing my part towards it, doesn't matter if you think I'm pretending to be a saint or if it's cucked to try being like this. What can I do, it's my thing.


| >>735165 +1 ^^


| Tbh I can see where both >>03dc4a and>>2207e4 are comming from, life aint easy for nobody and it can be really screwed up, so people take whatever path they feel better taking, some are proud some are not but they all have their reasons to do what they gotta do, so I judge based on character not actions or ideals and I gotta say, both are flawed but have interisting reasons and arguments


| >>2207e4 is more about accept life the way it is and deal with it because you cant change it and trying to do it makes you look bad and whinny.

>>03dc4a is on the if life sucks than I choose to not be content with it, I was shaped this way and they cant hurt me if I dont go along with them even if this makes me look bad I rather not accept things the way they are because they suck.

Both are fair ways to go in life


| >>9bb8bd

Indeed, I don't see how I should just act accordingly something I see as wrong. This would mean one is being opressed into condonement.

This is also related to the point someone made before about women who have unwanted experiences with men and decide that "all men are pigs".

...


| >>735360

Like, I can totally see how a woman can get to this conclusion, since most men I knew were complete jerks or brainwashed dumbasses, but funny thing is that's mostly where their sexual success comes from (besides having good looks, of course).

There are good men out there, I try to be one myself, but we're simply undesirable to women. When they say "all men are pigs", they're referring to the ones they can see, while the others (like myself) stay invisible.

...


| >>735363

I just forgot how to conclude this thought, so nevermind.


| >There are good men out there
There are good women out there too. Assuming they're evil makes this hard to see.

Generally, I agree that there's no reason to be content if the world is a way you don't like it. With regards to people, though, it's a little harder. If you expect a fish to climb a tree, it's pretty obvious that you're going to be disappointed. If you expect it to swim, maybe not. But people will respond differently just based on how they percieve your expectations.


| People don't do things because they're evil, or because they're virtuous, they do the things that they see benefit in. That can be altruistic benefit or material benefit or emotional benefit. It could even be because they want to be seen as evil, but even then it's a little different.


| I think if you choose to see someone as evil, two things are going to happen. The first is that you'll look only for the behaviors that you personally find evil. I think that's where your dislike of hypergamy came from, because I don't think most people would call that evil, and most not even bad. The second is that you'll attribute their actions to evil or malice. Most of the time, nobody wants to hurt you.


| Even when someone wants to hurt you, that's because they've decided they'll get pleasure from that (not that that's a justification). The point is that everybody is self interested. The women, the jerks and dumbasses, and the nice guys are all doing whatever it is they're doing for the same reason as you.

When you say things like "women are evil" or "gay people can be fixed" you are increasing their motivation to do things that you're not gonna like.


| So, rather than thinking that women are going to walk over you and use you as stairs AND you did nothing wrong, consider that you are making yourself into a staircase, punching bag, or target. Some people will be quicker to capitalize on it than others, whether they're women or men.

Also: if you say that something someone does is BAD or EVIL they're more than likely to get mad about it.


| If you say that it's fine for them to do but you want no part in it they'll respond more favorably. Sometimes people will do things that you think are absolutely unpermissable, but most of the time it isn't worth it to argue the subject.


| >>847b17 hey thats pretty good advice, I stand by this


| >>735377 All I hope is that it was worth reading the fuckall massive number of posts I used to give it ^^


| >>735372

About the your second point here:

You do believe when an "object" acts in a way, it stimulates the "agent" to walk out of it's way just to act accordingly or dos I misunderstand it? If not, could you elaborate on that?


| As a prep student, I am about to take my finals for the term, and this thread was good practice. Thanks g/u/rls ^^


| >>735386 If you're talking about the part of my advice I think you are, which I'm not sure of:

Nobody is going "out of their way." One person's actions and attitudes are part of the state of the world for another. If people react to their percieved state of the world, then it's clear that the actions of others are determined in part by our own.

A wise man once said, "When will you people learn that your actions have consequences?"


| By making posts with titles like these, you're consequently causing other people to perceive things like:
"Someone who hates me is posting on danger/u/!"
"Incels are invading my board!"
and "There is too much bait lately."
Those are all motivations for them to argue. When they argue, you then have a choice of how you understand the situation: are they arguing because they're unreasonable and you're blameless? or did you act in a way that lead to an argument?


| the answer is different at different times but usually the first one is taking the easy way out. blaming others is easy because you don't have to learn how to change the situation, you can just say "these people are evil and unchangable!" and give up. but then, you're never gonna be able to make it better, because you're absolving yourself of your ability to control anything.


| Thanks for clarifying it.


| Men and women are evil, it's all about finding well behaved and educated ones
As a girl, i can tell you the logic im about to tell you guys also works for men : the nice ones are ugly and the beautiful ones are Jerks


| >>736215

I believe this as well. Since beautiful people don't have to put effort on anything in life, always achieving anything easily and for free, on the other hand the ugly ones have to learn to do the things others won't do for them, while facing rejection everywhere (if male), they have to develop a sense of humility and simply accept themselves for what they are.


| I also noticed a whole different spectrum on "incel culture" from North to South America.

Incel online groups from the USA are full of men seemingly content at complaining about life all day and others who talk about rape all day. A common cause of complaints is the lack of sex (literally just sex, not the notion of having a loving partner who genuinely supports you), so I don't see why they just don't try hookers. Didn't stay long enough to find out.


| >>736230

But the incel groups I got to know here were mostly great places to discuss about our problems, hobbies, self-development, spirituality, memes and advices on how to survive women's predatory ways (or the lack of them). There was also space for MGTOWs and all. They are places for learning about life and about yourself, as far as I can tell.


| >>736234

Like, "well, since women despise and will only force themselves to pretend they see me as human in order to drain resources from me, guess I'll have to come up with other to do in life, huh" is the common mentality around here.

That's why the only ones who hate incels here, besides women in damage control, are heavily bluepilled men and castrated antifa-like progressivists.


| >>736237 i love how antifa is both all-destroying menaces and castrated and weak

Anyway, that mentality is totally fucked. It's good that those groups are more positive and less self-hating than the ones i'm familiar with, but look - there is literally no successful ideology whose community doesn't offer something good to its members. After all, if it didn't, nobody would be a part of that community. And yet we can all agree there are some ideologies which are still awful


| OK, i misread your description of that mentality as saying you thought women were only pretending to be human to drain resources. Sorry about that, I'll tone it down but i still think placing the problem with "women" is mistaken


| Though i'm from north america so i might be seeing some things different, it seems like the big issue of seeing relationships as a transaction is cultural one with really deep roots - many women do expect to be economically supported as if they were in an old school patriarchical marriage, even though today we have a lot more dating before/instead of marriage and different expectations, and also many seek status through relationships.


| But many men also expect that playing their side of that scenario entitles them to care and sex, without the women having any say. Even more successful ones who aren't in that NA 'incel' culture you mentioned. Women have all sorts of horror stories about this shit, and if we write them off because of bad experiences with some women then it does look like it's just a woman problem


| Really, if the term 'patriarchy' weren't so abused, i'd say it's the right term for the problem. But it is, so there isn't a great one. Women have had a whole movement to deal with it, and while hating men/how men treated them is a stepping stone in feminism, it doesn't go anywhere good if it doesn't lead to changing all kinds of old gender norms. Men also have to go beyond hating their experiences with women and grouping them all together to rethinking/remaking the basic culture


| >>736238

Well, I think ideologies have to be beneficial to the ones who are part of it, but are not obligated to do the same towards the ones who are not. That's why "hate groups" were always present. At least, they could literally fight off or simply ignore each other.
But nowadays, backed up by progressivist agendas, leftwing groups can mostly do whatever they want against anyone and if you try to defend yourself, well, you're fucked.


| >>736255

Funny thing is: I'm leftwing as well, I was from the workers party, but I can't make myself imagine being around the progressivist scum that took over the meaning of "leftwing".


| >>736245

In case I didn't misunderstood the point, don't you think being in a relationship with someone "entitles" you to care and sex? Why be with someone who's not into doing the basic emotional/physical contact with you?


| >>736246

You're saying if the situations were reversed, as in a "matriarchal" civilization, women would be the ones who were hated/incels or the ones who would solve all the problems?

I personally think men would still be incels (and there would be a lot more of them), since the matriarchal women would exclusively choose the highest status men.

Actually, now that I wrote it, ain't this exactly what's happening...?


| Lmfaooooooo this thread


| "noooo, you can't let people notice it too"...


| You heard it here first boys. Empathy lies in the dick.


| when yo vag sandy


| I myself only got figure this out around 22yo and I'm 25 now. So it's not weird that a lot of dudes haven't noticed something "strange" about how women behave completely different from what they've been told from parents and media.

This could unironically be a place to some "hearing here first".


| >>736924
>a lot of dudes haven't noticed something "strange" about how women behave completely different from what they've been told from parents and media.

If you listen to media as a form of education device no wonder you're worldview is lop-sided.

If you want to get to know women you actually have to talk to them yourself, you know.

Fucking incels, man...


| >>736924
>This could unironically be a place to some "hearing here first".

Learning about women from incels on anonymous message boards is probably the dumbest and most ignorant advice I've ever heard.


| >>736932

We all start there. That's why it's needed to be fixed. That should be obvious by now.


| >>736933

>oh well, good to know we're bad for the system.


| (1/3)Tbh, most of guys like you the "woman bad she won't fuck me" are making yourself unfuckable just by opening your mouth. When you treat them like object,guess what, noone wants to talk to jerk like that, let alone date them. So, how to talk to women?
1) don't be a weirdo. Do you have heated political opinions? Collection of figurines? A katana? Cool, noone wants to hear that. Have a lighthearted conversation, smalltalk or make some jokes. Being funny takes you a long way.


| (2/3)
2)Treat them like a fucking person. Just like you'd treat your friend. Also have some realistic expectaions, you are not gift from god to women. You don't deserve a supermodel just cause you have dick.


| (3/3)
3) No means no. Just don't throw a fit when you get rejected. Sometimes it just won't click, there's no way around that. Just because you 'were nice' or spend a lot of money on that person still means they can say no (you don't have to spend your lifesavings, you just gonna end up with someone exploiting you)
4) SHOWER!!! (daily)


| >>f9eb27 not OP, its not that easy bro, some people are just meant to be alone and some are just assholes, this applies for both genders and the number of male and female douchebags has been increasing.

On another note, can we talk about how valentines day sucks?


| >>737068

It's impressive how bootlickers (heel-lickers on this case?) have to reccur to scarecrows when they're cornered. I'm sorry, man, but everyone faces rejection. That shouldn't mold your character. You're not in position to give advice, you're not above the common civil norms, you're not an authority (or maybe you are, in case you wanna teach someone to be a heel-licker?), women despise you the same way they despise me. You just don't notice. It's how it is, what can I do?


| >>737082

Although that doesn't mean one can't "talk" to women (or date or fuck). I mean, some girls get along well with awful guys, so nothing would stop them from getting along with me, it would be actually easier, don't you think? I'm not the worst the world has to offer. I'm really easy-going, lol.


| >>737073

Nothing in life is easy. Also, what's with northern americans to think people don't shower daily? Is it common where you live? 'cause I'm from a tropical country, so we have to shower like 5-6 times a day. Is it another popular scarecrow?


| >>737084 I think not bathing everyday is a more european thing lol, where I live its at least 2 times a day


| Although, back to the point, how hiding my tastes and political views, showering daily, pretending women don't see me as vermin/wallet and settling down for physical/character flaws in girls makes them stop being evil? Like, I could just keep doing what I'm doing now, which is ignore them (not that they would want anything to do with me)? Why would I go out of my way to submit myself to the arrogance of someone who lives like people need to fit on a character they made up in mind?


| Hell, I'm not interested myself, why would they be?


| Man if you think this way, then why the hell did you make me read all this. >>737096


| I didn't. What do you mean?


| >>737082
Well,... I am a woman. Tho, yes, you are right, this doesn't make me any moral authority and I don't pretend to be one. What I wrote is very general stuff that should be common sense.
And no, you don't have to be someone else, just be respectful, don't be butthurt asshole, so simple,yet when its about a girl suddenly its a problem. Also, has it ever occured to you that if everyone despite you, maybe, just maaaybe it says something more about you than them?


| >>737168

Are you sure you're a woman? You kinda have the "soyjak" vocabulary, that's what mislead me.

Anyways, yeah, I spent years trying to figure out if I was aggressive or if I smelled ir maybe if I had bad breath or maybe I said too many curse words, maybe my feet were too big, could be that I was generally just an unpleasant person?

But no, nothing seemed to add on. I was still hated by some folks and had some others by my side. I must be a unique specimen.


| Oh wait, you were talking about that scarecrow again, right? Damn, you really tricked me there.

But you didn't expect this:

Women hate me because they can sense with their woman senses that I am abusive and manipulative.

But also, some of them end up dating guys who are way worse than me, 'cause they are abusive and manipulative, which helps to fool them.

Bullseye, right?


| >>e3fe69
I know why women won't date you.


| I think this >>737073 is still relevant


| >>e3fe69
You know... I don't need no spidey "abuser detector sense" to see the problem why noone wants to talk to you. I don't belive you are abuser, just cause you are so unpleasant to just have a conversation with that I don't think you'd fool anyone.

>>737073 and yeah, there's no exact guide to dating, but what I said is more like normal conversation sarter pack. You said its not your fault, yet you were nothing but aggresive asshole. And I'd guess you are not much better irl


| >>737083 here you said "girls get along with abusers, so why not me" so back to my point. You are not entitled to anything. If you consider being more openminded and respectful like a "moulding of a character" then off you go.
But don't blame an entire gender for not wanting to put up with your shit.


| >>737225 but I am not>>e3fe69 pay more attention dude


| t r i g g e r r e d


| >>737233 sorry, I know, I just wanted to adress it at once, I wasnt really talking to you.


| >>737188

Did I stroke a nerve?


| >>737225

Yeah, I did. It was not my intention. For future situations like this one, try to keep on the subject. Otherwise, people point out your falacies and you get mad. No one wins.


| Again, you've beaten your pocket scarecrow to bloody pulp. He's choking with his own blood. But I'm not... As I told you before, I've had relationships. I mean, why would I haven't? It's nice when a miracle happens and you find someone who's nice to have around, some you can share your life with and all that.

Unfortunately, I became unemployed, which put me on the dry spot.


| But jobless or not, incel or not, single or not, I couldn't point out any significant difference in women's common behavior since I started noticing.

Sure, there are 2 or 3 that are really good people to have in your life. The rest of them fall back to my description. This includes you, as far as I can tell. Imagine having to deal with someone unable to consider things by themselves, always running off to pre-made speeches because someone on twitter said.


| Incels kill yourselves 2021 challenge


| >>737354

>imagine getting this desperate because someone criticized ~our queens~

Don't you feel like women's servants are way weaker than incels and woudn't stand much without the leash? Looks like to me.


| incels gonna incel lmao


| Tldr : women bad im incel


| >>737406

I still repeat myself because I think it's important to point out how castrated your kind is:

I don't think it would be healthy for me to be a cuck nor a beta provider nor a stepfather. I don't do heavy drugs. I'm not a pornstar. I'm not a CEO. I'm not a weightlifter. I've got no job.


When you take all these out, what would be the option besides being incel? There isn't.


| >>737545

Read the post above as well, castrated number 2, lol.


| >>737572
>can't have sex
>constantly fuming over woman dating bad guys

>not a cuck
Whatever makes you sleep at night, bro


| I woudn't be able to sleep as a cuck. Can't judge someone for it, not my business, but I couldn't agree on it just to say to some effeminate neckbeards on a textboard that I "managed to get a girl".


| >>737582
How often does something like this happen in real life? Like, never? It sounds like something incels makes up in their minds during sleepless nights.

What's wrong with conventionally dating a woman you respect that respects you back like any other common couple?


| >>737718

Sure, weakling progressivists who let their partners fuck around to show the badge of "women respecter" is something I made up, not real by all means.

Should be anything wrong in dating someone you respect? Did someone say there was (besides your pocket scarecrow)?


| >>737724
>I couldn't agree on it just to say to some effeminate neckbeards on a textboard that I "managed to get a girl".

Is (obviously)what I was refering to. Not the existence of cuckolding. Why would you even bring something like this up? It doesn't happen in the real world. It's all you.


| >>737724
>I don't think it would be healthy for me to be a cuck nor a beta provider nor a stepfather. I don't do heavy drugs. I'm not a pornstar. I'm not a CEO. I'm not a weightlifter. I've got no job.


>When you take all these out, what would be the option besides being incel? There isn't.

This is what you think relationships are built upon. So I'll ask again, what's wrong with conventionally dating a woman you respect that respects you back like any other common couple?


| >>737728

I was referring to the "cuck meme". In a real context, it's not my thing.


| >>737729

Relationships are built on tardes. If you have nothing to trade on, you have the options of being single or dating someone who woudn't be healthy for you. I'm on the single path.


| >>737780 based, relationships are completely transactional and men are disposable


| That's what I've been saying from the start...


| >>738035
80% of women go for 20% of men, so for 20% of men most women are pump and dump whores


| Shit, the incel is right!


| Yeah, I've never seen genuinely kind woman too but try to be good to everyone... Good to see I'm not the only one!


| Maybe younare no a genuinely kind dude and that's why


| >>738241

Yes. I've never seen genuinely kind men as well, but as far as I could tell, they're able to at least understand the concept behind mutualism and basic human respect. Women tend to be self-absorbed even from that.


| >>738161

But also good to see the low test folks coming here to say "incel incelling incellies in inceland".


I.E. - "W-why do you keep exposing women? I-- I already called you and incel! T-this gives me power over you, right? Why don't you stop? Please, stop, I've got nothing else!"


| what the fuck is happening
what am i reading
how did i get here


| >>738243
I guess? I'm not an bad person either but I still meet bad people


| >>738265
But if you're a bad person you're never gonna meet kind people because they're gonna avoid you.


| >>738270
K bud


| >>738287

"YIKES!!! SWEATY, YOUR PERSONALITY IS SO BAD THAT MAKES YOUR PERSONALITY BAD AND OBVIOUSLY IT ENDS UP IN YOU HAVING A BAD PERSONALITY!!!"


| >>738246
What does "low test" mean? Do you mean IQ which is already a disproven qualifier for objective intelligence?

Also hilarious how your luteral only take/argument is "we're exposing women" like ??????? OF WHAT LMAO avoiding weird fucking dips like you guys that proudly say that you're borderline abusive and manipulative? For engaging in the same avaricious attitude as any man?

My dudes just neck yourselves


| >>738348
Testosterone


| >>738348

Oh great, an oportunitty to ridicule the same thing again.

"Wtf incel, women hate you because they can see you're manipulative incel, checkmate incel! But also, women can't see when they date a manipulative partner besides you, obviously because they're manipulative so women don't see it."

Melt more, weak men. I'm holding the pot for you, lmao.


| >>738402
Like lmfao what
What even was that second half, once again your argument makes no sense and is predicated on us believing an unproven premise. No one once said women are unable to see or hold manipulative natures. You just keep overplayibg your hand and further degrading and flailing. The cringey little "hm hm i am so witty" at the end is the cherry on top though.


| Get a fucking therapist. Or start drinking, whichever helps. I guarantee you will be miserable and alone until you stop this self-pitying, magical thinking, ahistorical, confirmation bias ass way of seeing the world and human interactions. But honestly? That's probably for the better.

Die alone thinking women are "EEEEVUL" you fucking dork hahahahahahaha


| Fuckin dweebass chinless beardless peachfuzz moustache ass 37 year old chest length hair with a big ol balding crown virgin ass livin in a halfway house ass incel motherfucker

Sheeeeeeeeeit lmfao


| You know. I am a woman. And i gave up to argue at the beginning in this thread i think. It's kinda hard to say anything against you that might help you to rethink your worldview. I mean there are all this accusations. Like we are manipulative, evil, exploiting etc. And my answer would be "no i am not". It's extremely weird to see people online trying to justify their believes with "biology and evolution" and shit like that. Most of the time it's pseudoscience etc.


| Im reading this stuff and i don't know what to answer. Imagine you read stuff about men online. Saying that they don't have feelings, they only think with their penis etc. That they are using women only for their sexual satisfaction and dont love their character and personality. How would you respond? Or how will you respond to all the incelhate that is thrown against you? Most of the time it's impossible. Because their hateonoy searches for verification.


| And so is yours. To decide if one person has these bad traits i would have to know what it exactly happened and etc. There is too much i dont know. So what kind of an answer do you expect? I think it's impossible to prove you wrong in any way if ur only looking for qualification. And as much as you hate women why would anyone want to prove you wrong, if you see them as monster and don't show a single bit of empathy?


| Because i don't want to prove you wrong. It's too much of work. Exspecially if u don't have any empathy for me and accusate me all the time. Why would i want to? So als what are you are expecting? And it's also true that people are sensitive and can feel that. I can feel it when a guy is only using me, when he doesnt look at my soul and when he tries through suggestion to put me where he thinks i belong. You also feel underlying hate.


| It's like when u tell someone in a fight that they are hysteric. Every counter proves this accusation. It's a situation i can't win no matter what i do. It's kinda like a downward spiral what u are doing. Because u are already so frustrated that you only look for verification and your anger exposes itself and then people stay away from you and then it "proves" your point again.


| The only thing i can say to you are 2 things:
1. No relationships and dating are not a always the same procedure which costs money. None of my relationships costed money in the past. Exspecially not only from the man. I dont give a shit and many others dont either. Dont go to marketplaces like tinder. Like talking to someone you like from sport activity or uni or other social events.
My second is the most important one:


| Maybe you should try to just befriend girls. I mean if every girl is an "opportunity" for love for you, you are using them and it's probably not genuine love or liking if every girl is "okay for you" and you just take what u get. Just befriend them and don't try using them or wanting something from them. I think this is the only genuine way you can learn how they think and feel in a neutral way. And maybe then your perspective can change.


| >>738411

You got so angry It's way more probable you're a woman than an effeminate neckbeard.

Anyways, thanks for the melt as well.


| >>738412

Yeah, if not a woman, someone who wishes to be one...


| >>738432

I'm not sure about biology ir evolution justifying all things and I'm sorry if it looked that way.


| >>738433

I see women hating men everywhere, it's trendy, what can I do? You think I show up to segue against it? They're free to do their thing, they're encouraged to. And most times, I can't say they're wrong. Given the type of attractive men that women chase after, I don't think they can end well by doing so. But well, it's on them. Everyone is responsible for their own doings, I guess.


| >>738434

I don't hate women, but it pains me with unending sadness about them. Maybe that doesn't really make sense to you...


| >>738435

Well, what can I say? If you do "sense" things, then I'm sure trap-proof and no turbo-incels will deceive you or something...


| >>738436

Maybe you don't believe it, but it's because I've been poor af. That's all.

I don't think it should be necessary to be said, but looks and status are what define relationships. Yeah, I know our parents and Disney movies taught us the opposite, but that's how things are...

There's no point in saying I'm "too evil" or too anything. If that mattered, serial killers woudn't be getting hundreds of letters from women...


| >>738437

Well, yeah, I noticed not all men have to pay for relationships, only the low status ones (the majority)...


| >>738438

I gave up some time ago. I don't think looking for "love" brings anything healthy to the looker. Assuming it would happen, should be something spontaneous. Same thing with friends. My friends who never let me down are people I've met completely by occasion.


| Also, sorry for the overposting. I just decided it feels good to point out that men who get mad about this kind of argument are always (always) some schizoid femboys smelling of cheese and well, you can see how they get mad when I do it, 'cause I don't even need to know them in person. Their vocabulary and pre-made scarecrows are enough to show that. I didn't see a single personal opinion here besides yours. Only effeminate bootlickers proving me right. Which is good in a way.


| >>738458 I gotta side with you on that, a lot of people just came here to give premade responses and insults. Tho I find it interesting when somebody gives an actual opinion and engages in a conversation, we need more people like that in the world.


| >>738465

No point in arguing. All that's needed is to remind them healthy men are masculine and they're the opposite of that. Then: meltdown.


| >>738467
Lmfao

You: [make a whole thread literally whining and wishing women werent "evil", repeatedly typing fucking novels rife with defensive projection]

People: lol incel lrn2talk2women

You: [7 paragraphs later] u guys are melting down and i am very cool and in control hm hm hm *twirls moustache and tilts fedora*


| neck yourself incel


| >>738469

The thread was intended for me to talk to people and the ones with considerable points deserve some paragraphs, I think.

But the deformed femboys who will never be women just don't deserve it. One or two lines is enough.

Your effort on saying how witty you are above all that already says enough about it.


| >>738470

See? Why should seriously respond to this? This thing knows he's a lost cause.


| I mean, I understand how psychological castration works. There's a lot of men who fell for it at these modern times. Giving money to streamers and supporting progressivist politics in order to have some crumbs of pussy "like an absolute Chad".

I'm just a regular dude who's equally despised by women as much as if I was a cuckbeard, but I just see no point in worshipping them. What would I gain from it?

This thread is about "damn, I wish life wasn't like that".


| >>738478

But of course, said cuckbeards are not programmed to notice something like that.

It's surely better to be an "absolute Chad" by licking women's feet, since they're clearly not incels. You bet.


| >>738469

Also "learn to talk to women" is an interesting way to say women are a hivemind. So there is a particular way and set of symbolisms that makes women, as a hivemind, react in a certain way, huh?

I myself don't believe this theory, but you do you.


| Remember:
You're not a loser until you've given up.


| >>738527
I gave up


| >>738540
Shave your face, cut your hair, get vaccinated and go out and be your best self. A lot of lonely women/men are waiting for a date once lockdown is over.


| women are whores


| >>738571

But I like growing my beard and shaving my head.


| >learning how to talk to women
That doesn't imply that women are hiveminds. It's just... Learning how to talk to humans. That's all. I mean humans in general are hiveminds too because there is just appropiate behaviour and not appropiate behaviour. Women are humans too. And that's all


| Hivemind is called culture and shit


| genuinely hoping OP killed himself :)


| I told you guys already, no point in ending my life. I'm a teacher. I'll work as a teacher again. I can do good for youngsters, help them hate soycucks even more and instead of offing myself, helping people make femboys hang by their necks in their rooms, remembering they will never, ever, ever be women, lol.

But no no, you're actually a winner who's turbo-trolling OP and he will truthfully die after that.


| >>738886
They actually can become one tho lol


| >>738949 anyone can by that logic, if we go in a positive route, really anyone can be a winner from incels, to triggred condisending people.


| Sure, sure, lol.


| Anyways, I think this thread will die anytime soon, 'cause I kinda hurt the feelings of a particular neckbeard in here and he actually made another thread to try and reunite all the other effeminate soylards in one place. But there are people showing up there to point out the obvious: that a triggered soycuck manages to look way sadder than an incel and he's melting down there just like he did here, because he OBVIOUSLY IS NOT TRIGGERED, lmao.


| You should go there and reach out for your brother or something, I guess, lol.


| hot danger/u/ pro tip: if you stop responding to the thread, it will die with dignity, rather than maligning the board for two more weeks.

hot danger/u/ pro tip 2: if that's hard, you can add it to the thread hider, and pretend the mods locked it.


| >>b91813 bro wtf? I dont tottaly agree with OP, Im not an incel neither OP, I just think you are just as bad(possibly worse in some ways) as OP, you are condisending, intolerant, a bit of an asshole, and very starved for validation which are steriotyped traits that people attribute to incels.


| >>738981

Some people - most of them were girls, I can't deny it warmed my heart a bit - brought good points here which gave me food for thought, so I ended up replying to what I could not disagree (or just to enrage soycucks), but I'll remember there is a thread hider, thanks.

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