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my friend wants to become a girl
| Help him pay fpr tha transition in exchange of becoming your girlfriend
| don't think that it's is the wisest decision because all of the complication. And because he hasn't done anything yet and hasn't told anyone this is the best time.
At the time, when he told me (over phone) that he wanted to, I was so surprised I just supported him because I didn't think this is worth breaking a friendship over. But i still am not that sure.
What should I do...
| haha... i'm a girl sorry... and also he has a gf
| Also he is quite young right now.
| Are we talking about nasty hormone shots or just identity change? If he's young, you better tell him the consequences if he's doing hormones and stuff.
| >>541924
Super nasty side effects. I'm not a doctor but hormone replacement has a huge downsides. Sure they give you some traits of a female body, but they come at a cost.
| yeah... i think going through or almost through with puberty.... But i don't think it will go anywhere for now because he's too scared to tell his parents
| >>541931 yes! Imagine a person with a fick entering the female restroom and no one can complain about them! Nasty dirty pee everywhere
| >>541931
that's not how it works
thefederalist.com/2018/08/31/explosive-ivy-league-study-repressed-for-finding-transgender-kids-may-be-a-social-contagion/
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/10/i-was-americas-first-non-binary-person-it-was-all-a-sham/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-transgender-teen-suicide/trans-teens-much-more-likely-to-attempt-suicide-idUSKCN1LS39K
three words: 'trans' suicide rate
| it was joke. But I am still worried for my friend.
Like what's going to happen in the future ?
| Should i stop him ...
| 1 word: puberty blockers.
If this is just him being a whacky teen, then he can get of the puberty blockers and resume becoming a man at any time.
If she really is a trans woman then she can move onto actual HRT without worrying about being permanently more mannish since she was able to avoid male hormones.
And honestly, it's not your place to judge or control what your friend does. It's not easy telling someone you want to be a woman, so please just be supporting and accepting.
| >>bdbbc4 ask him to come over to your house. then, when he gets there, suck his dick so hard that he changes his mind. guaranteed to work every time.
| >>541944 a big reason of the trans suicide rate is transphobia that leads to harassment though. He should reach out to trans communities and try to figure it out himself with people who know what they're talking about.
| >>542071
or PERHAPS, just FUCKING PERHAPS it's because they often FUCK UP their bodies with shit like estrogen and genital mutilation in an attempt to become something they will never be, instead of accepting who they are, because political indoctrinators like you convinced them to do so. at the very least, they end up horrendously depressed because they will never be what they end up convinced that they are/want to be, and that fucks them up every time they look in the mirror.
| >>542071
instead of addressing their mental illness, you allow it to flourish, and when they kill themselves, you blame everyone but yourself.
i hate you for what you stand; unhealthy glorification of gender dysphoria, the destroyer of many vulnerable lives.
and then you bash normal people for not indulging in your unhealthy, deadly delusions. because it's now 'politically correct' to do so.
i'm so fucking sick of this shit.
| Fundie cucks gonna die mad about me while I'm busy happily being a girl
Imagine being so willfully ignorant as to ignore actual studies and data and instead cling to the few reckless fringe claims as gospel insteadm. Just like climate change deniers. Maybe even fucking Flat Earthers.
| ITT people jump to conclusions about topics they don't understand and act self righteous.
| If he's under 18 then he is likely to pass if he transitions. And less likely every year past that.
Invite them over so you can explain all the problems women face. If he's still interested, help dress him up as a girl and see how he feels.
| >>542090 you can't begin to imagine what gender dysphoria feels like. If I hadn't transitioned I would probably have blown my head of years ago, and I am now infinitely more happy. You don't know what you're talking about so please keep your hate out of here
| >>542396
I know we shouldn't waste the effort of responding to them, but it still feels good to see them frothing at the mouth that dysphoria is real.
| >>542090
>instead of addressing their mental illness, you allow it to flourish
It's a legitime therapy method to accept the mental illnes and give it its way, as long it doesn't harm threatens the affected persons live or society.
Nevertheless to define what's mental illnes is often pretty ideological. It's no signal of mental health to adapt to ideological, unscientifical and sick society norms.
| >>542374
I agree with this g/u/rl. Just invite him over. Talk about it. Help him research it and help him come to a conclusion.
Don't tell him what to do or anything like that, and be open to everything he says.
Also, it's not because he watches anime. Not sure how you came to that conclusion.
| I totally understand your friend. I never truely thought about being a girl when I was younger apart from the occasional "I wonder what it would be like to be a girl for a day". But as I've watched a shit ton of anime I started to want to be a girl. Wear cute dresses, frilly Lacey pantsu, cosplay and has weird hair colours. Just be all cutesy. I got really scared that I truely wanted to be a girl and never told anyone. I'm over it now tho, and I don't think it's be a good idea
| Op, in my opinion, if your friend doesn't have dysphoria then they probably shouldn't go through with it, but I'd say if you want to be supportive buy a dress together or put makeup on or something like that to gage their reaction
Having said that I think he needs to talk this through with a psych or something since this type of treatment is in its infancy and even with hrt and bottom surgery there's a chance they won't pass as female
| >>542558 and the changes made by hrt are not reversible so they need to be sure that they're ok with their poker not working if they somehow change their mind it don't go through with it 100%
| >>542558
Getting your dick sucked by a girl under your dress sounds hot. That will change his mind pretty quick.
| >>542558
more like a chance he'll destroy himself.
this leftist bullshit is the worst. he's probably a hairy fat neckbeard. seeing that thing prance around in dress and lipstick is liable to burn your eyes.
OP, tell me, is he a qt boy or just another faggot?
| >>542496
are you kidding? it's 90% anime. it's called indoctrination, i've been listening to martial industrial for the past 3 years and now i'm a fuking nazi.
big impact my dude
| >>542408
you mean the norms that don't make people kill themselves.
look you either got indoctrinated or there was a hormonal imbalance in your brain. that's it.
males are predisposed to be males. it's natural for a male to be a male.
>>542396
keep your sick rhetoric out of young healthy people's heads. it's your kind that created this "regendering" fad. you're forgetting all the healthy people that get caught up in your bullshit and actually do end up with actual gender dysphoria.
| one day the people you corrupt will be adults and look at the thing in the mirror in disgust.
and there will be no going back.
| >>542613
And gays aren't real and niggers should all be murdered. You also forgot that Jews should have been eradicated long ago, and that leftists are dumb faggots who ruin the world and should all be tortured and killed.
| Fuck sake. I'm tired dude.
| biblefuckers go back to arkansas
| hi op here
thank for all the info and help ^^
| >>542610 yeh, well i think he is pretty feminine. (he has really skinny legs and wrists). But he looks pretty normal. i guess
| >>542558 >>542374
he tried to dress up as girl on a few occasions. He's known as the trap of our school because on events he dresses in girl cosplay. He told me he liked that and felt better when he was in that attire.
| >>542612 you obviously have no clue about what dysphoria is, you keep throwing the word around without any idea of what it means. You don't know what you're talking about and you're kind of being an asshole about a subject that doesn't even have anything to do with you. Please stay silent as your opinion is irrelevant anyways.
| I think the best thing you can do as a friend is help them research it. Also make sure it's without bias, or at least has argument from both sides. Then leave the decision to them, whether or not it's a bad decision we have to respect them to some degree.
| Asking the important question here
| >>542694 yeah that sounds about right, definitely get him to talk to a doctor or psych or something to help decide if hrt is right for them
Also, imo, ignore the political bullshit, people need to chill and wait for more research before getting so up an arms over other people's lives
| >>542751 I believe for hrt they want you to live as your preferred gender for a year or something so that should give them time to decide, double check that though
| ask your friend to talk to people who aren't lurking on /d/
| >>542741
Op here, I am on my phone right now sorry for name change
recently he watched love live ( NOT SUNSHINE SHIT FIGHTME) ( and cried at the end lmao )
Keijo
Um... I can't think much beyond tho
I'll write more when I remember
| >>be3626 it's 100% because of anime, Ive also experienced wanted story be a girl because of anime, it even nearly made me gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that ofc
| >>542792
get him to stop watching anime and go out trekking through the woods instead
make him do manly activities, he'll get straight eventually
tell him it's an experiment or some bullshit
| >>542639
so when did i say that? if anything, you're the one making it political. i'm just trying to make it so that young people don't ruin their lives and end up killing themselves, and you want me to prevent that.
| i might be repeating myself, but this is a mental illness that created a social fad because people are easily influenced. and it's harmful: those who end up following the fad end up with actual mental illnesses and that's not fucking okay to defend.
in turn, when you're advocating for mental health, you get called a number of names because it's not 'ideologically acceptable'.
you are insane - what the fuck is wrong with you?
| I'll never stop loving the head-in-the-sand attitudes of these fuckers who don't have a comprehension of science beyond a first grade level. The medical and psychiatric communities are both in collective agreement as to the existence of trans people being justified through factors beyond "hurr durr theyre just pervs n retards lmao"
| >>542835 reminds me of that guy whose father made learn woodworking to make him less gay. He said it didn't work but he could build you the gayest log cabin ever.
| >>542795
Huh. Guess I haven't watched enough anime then. If anime almost turned you gay, what did you watch? I would like to turn bi since it sounds chill as fuck, so if this actually works I'd be really happy.
| >>542835
Personally i think he's quite "manly". He's a really good ultimate frisbee player. Also there are also really other "camp" guys at his school and they are also insanely good at sports.
| >>542052
sounds like some kind of doujin.
what next. should i put on a dick to fuck him too?
-_-
i realise /d/ is probably not the best place to ask this stuff lol
| >>542847
so what? does that suddenly make it okay? is it suddenly acceptable for your people to fuck up their bodies permanently? is it suddenly acceptable to indulge in mental illness? level with me, you fucking retard.
| >>542916
0.0 u right.
but I'm pretty sure most of them are straight (except for the ones that openly talks about sucking dick).
Also you don't need to be athletic to be the female role in sex right ?
| >>542920 you do know it isn't recognized as a mental illness by people way more qualified than us to talk about mental illnesses right?
| >>542794
ok maybe i should rephrase this as uh
Talk To People Who Are Professionals On This Topic Who Are Not On The Internet And Then Choose What To Do From There
because as much as we'd all like to be, we're not the best ones to give advice being total internet strangers and shit
| also, given that most (if not all) of us are not professionals on this topic and only your friend can make a decision @op
| all in all, it's always better to talk to a professional doctor about these sorts of matters
| He's relying on you to teach him how to become a girl. But be careful, he might steal your boyfriend away.
| Is your friend named Tony?
| >>542836 not really, if you really do have gender dysphoria and it's bad enough to want hrt then it's probably better even if it messes you up since it'll probably help your mental health a lot, personally I know quite a few people who have said they are either going to start hrt or kill themselves so there's definitely a reason for the treatment in cases like that and it's up to the individual and their psych/doc to decide if it's right for them
| >>542964 it is a mental illnesses and should be imo but it's the dysphoria that's the key there not the gender part, if it's not a mental illness then it's cosmetic surgery and we know insurance companies aren't going to pay for that, so it's really damaging to have it not listed for whatever reason
| That said I'm not defending their argument just saying it is in the dsm and that removing it would be a bad move
| >>543047 Thank you! I think that;s the general message I'm seeing from this thread. I've realized that this no longer about anything serious ^^
| Thanks everyone!
These are my takeaways;
- see a professional
- makes sure he knows he's getting into (being a girl, irreversible effects)
- support him in whatever direction he takes
| >>543059
Hahaha, I still have ptsd over my last bf breaking up because he was gay and fell in love with my best friend's bf ^^; yaya
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| Recently, a close friend told me he wanted to become a girl. I think it's partly because he watches anime a lot and glorifies being a girl based on the impressions of anime girl (of course not only this but he does watch alot of anime, he told me that he has thinking about this for 3 years already). He hasn't told many people yet ( and is very scared of telling his parents). I, personally