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trans girls are cute and valid
| Traps are gay
| *flashback to like two days ago* I... I think we just went through this...
| No, you're just gay.
| I wish I was, but I'm not. Just look at what the assholes above posted. No matter how much I want to be valid their kind will stomp it out...
| I wish I had been born a hundred years in the future when they've figured how to just put us in the right bodies and we don't get murdered for being girls
| sure if the dick gone, they might be cute
| People should stop trying to rationalize this kind of stuff. You like what you like. You don't like what you don't like. It's simple. As ironic as it will be to say this on this thread, grow a pair amd just move on.
| beauty is in the eye of the beholder
| XX and XY bitches, that'll never change
| every single cell in your body is screaming that this is not the case
| >>522678 m2f trans people aren't saying they're genetically female, they're saying they want to appear and be treated as such, usually because of dysphoria which has no treatment other than hormones and such
| Most trans people are aware they're not genetically their preferred gender but since that's not possible anyway saying to them that they're not is equivalent of telling someone trying to do something for the first time that they're shit at it and that that shouldn't have tried
| >>522682
so you're the type of person to tell a person with psychotic delusions that the little grey men stalking her are real?
| >>522683
they should have been told that early on to avoid them falling into the pit of gender dysphoria (mental illness)
| >>522691
have you ever considered that gender dysohoria is treated by transitioning, and that just telling them to repress themselves will lead to bigger problems?
| >>522693
the bigger problem here is that they'll never be the gender they want to be, and some of them turn to surgery in desperate attempts and finally end up killing themselves because their bodies end up fucked up.
it is better to accept who you are. the continuation of the problem is never the solution.
| >>522677
>It's another "I do not actually understand biology beyond a 3rd grade level yet will gladly spout incomplete or false information instead of accepting the conclusions scientists made literal decades ago" poster.
Become an hero, you sad, sad waste of grey matter. You and all the outdated "sex=gender lmao" posters up there too. It's just so tiring and annoying to see your kind doing donuts in the same shit pit every single time trans people are mentioned anywhere ever.
| >>522707
do you not know what genes are?
i'm not at fault for your ignorance, you know. it's not my fault if i'm right and you'll die with the gender you were born with.
| Where is the genetic marker that solely and specifically dictates who should be allowed to wear makeup and skirts, where in the human genome is there a series of binary toggles on a human's acceptable favorite hobbies and interests EXPLICITLY stating restrictions such as "Penis Config = No Purses" or "Vagina = No Football"?
Go ahead, professor, enlighten us all. Go ahead and disprove the utterly arbitrary nature of gender exclusivity in modern society.
>Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch
| The kindergarten dropout over here LITERALLY thinks that there is no such thing as variance in chromosome types beyond just XX and XY, this utter clownshoes fuck thinks Intersex people are a communist conspiracy, this absolute shelf over here continues to pirouette around the objective fact that society's concept of masculinity and femininity are based almost entirely on arbitrary factors. It's just so draining. He needs to stop. He knows he needs to stop. But will he?
| From a board dedicated to whackin it, comes a thread filled with so much toxicity and hate over a topic as simple as this. It's scary how people can get so riled up and hateful like this.
| Can't we all just shclick and fap in peace with each other?
| >>522712
here's a hint: hormones.
>>522713
"intersex" are a mutation, a disorder. also, hormones. XX/XY produced.
i'm with >>522725. why is it so fucking complicated and deluded? toss your bullshit out of the window and let's exist. stop trying to hypnotize yourself in some political indoctrination system where you try to change facts and science. born males die male and that's not a fucking catastrophe. masturbate to whatever the fuck you want you absolute idiots. i like futanati.
| >>522731
especially this >522707 >>522712 >>522713 cancerous twat. he's trying hard to be cool or something and is just overall a sad arrogant mess of a fuckstickle. pack up your garbage dump of an angry life and go take a walk in the mountains, you need some zen or some shit.
by the way XX=female and XY= male, sorry you're too far gone to understand that.
what i hate above all is delusion. "trans girls" are not girls, and psychotic mental patients are not "dinosaur messiah".
| >>522733
sorry, but just because youve taken 9th grade biology doesn't make you a master scientist in genes. the human mind and body is a lot more complex than xx and xy, and just about and actual biologist worth their salt would agree.
btw, insulting people doesn't make you more correct, it just makes you look like an asshole.
| >>522744
dude you either got a dick or a vagoo, there's nothing fucking complicated about that you science master
| >>522690
The dsm5 lists the treatment for gender dysphoria as hormones, therapy, and transition surgery so argue with the medical field not me
>>522691
Oh yes I'm sure that will work.
Hey everyone depression is bad!
Now no one who reads this will get depression thanks to your brilliant idea!
| >>522695 I don't think you understand dysphoria it's not as simple as accepting themselves, now I can agree that there should be a lot of hoops to jump through for surgery because it's not reversible, same with hormones but in reality if they still feel like shit when dressed as their preferred gender then there is a good chance some will just mutilate themselves, I'd rather have surgery as an option than that
| i think one of the biggest issues is all the people who feel the need to point out they're not their preferred gender, as that likely makes them feel inadequate and like they need to do more. My theory is that if people wouldn't be assholes we'd see both less bottom surgery and trans suicide
| >>522764
lefties, not medicals.
also, did you know? delusion is not depression. you're making a stupid comparison.
>>522765
but that surgery is mutilation. if they have gender dysphoria, it's either a hormonal or a psychological problem, and both can be resolved.
>>522762
fuck context. you either have a penor or a vagoo, or else you're a mutation. where is the problem in that sentence?
| >>522767 no, medical field, the lefties are trying to get it removed from the DSM because of the stigma around mental disorders
| >>522767 surgery is much less dangerous than back alley surgery, I suppose we should get rid of abortion clinics by similar logic
| >>522767 context is important and your comment was not contributing to the conversation in any way, if you want it to stand on its own don't reply to a conversation where it's not relevant
| And to the rest of the first point, they're both listed as mental disorders in the dsm5, you know, the thing doctors use to diagnose them?
| >>522770
yes we should
>>522776
well at least you recognize that. so "trannies" are mentally ill. okay. my point is, let's not glorify or "play into" this delusion by providing a way for that disorder to keep on going. it's hurtful for everyone involved.
>>522768
previous, and also, lefties are the big propagators of this politically-infused disease. i think we can all agree when i say they're out of their mind...
| >>522777 a right winger who hates abortion, wonderful so I know I'm not going to get far with you but let's try anyway
Mental disorders shouldn't be glorified but you seem to think treatment is "playing into" it, by the same logic those with schizophrenia should be refused medication.
There's a difference between the left and trans people and people with gender dysphoria, you can be "trans" without the mental disorder, which is probably what your actual issue is with
| >>522783
your treatment*. alternative treatments and medicines are plenty and available. better than mutilating them and feeding them lies. also if you're deluded enough to ignore science, you must probably be mentally ill.
perhaps your mother should have aborted you, eh?
| let's keep it civil now, /d/
| >>522789 look you can argue it's not right all you want and say I'm denying science, the dsm5 which is The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, disagrees with you so if you're correct you need to prove it to the medical community and insulting me because your so adverse to being wrong isn't going to help you any
| >>522795 the whom is in the post if you read it again and I'd imagine you could ask the body that produces the dsm if you're so inclined
| >>522798 I'm not going to waste more of my time since your clearly not listening to me or are a troll so you'll have to find your own copy of the dsm to read
| Why do people always jump to John Money as a means to discredit this? The U.S government employed ex Nazis and also pardoned various members of Unit 731 including its leader Shiro Isshi. Almost all of our advances in medical science have an extremely dark origin. But here we are with a better understanding of it. Who actually gives a fuck about a dead monster?
| >>522817
i went outside and i saw pride parade so i went back inside
>>522819
without 'ex Nazis' there wouldn't have been a space program
captcha- nice dick ante
| I like how the transphobe in the thread is such a cowardly bitch amd STILL dodges around confronting the plain and simple truth that gender is a social construct. It's bad enough he refuses to educate himself on how chromosomes actually work in the real world but that's actual science so ot might be too much for his tiny brain to understand, but basic comprehension of what gender actually is isn't rocket science.
| >>522859 I've been arguing with that Anon for a while and don't believe gender to be a social construction, gender is the same as sex colloquially, and if your "gender" isn't gender identity as the dsm sperates I'm not sure I understand what "gender" is
| >>522866
he's just confused and thinks that 'personality' is 'gender'. it's nothing new for faggies to be confused tbh.
also would you notice his aggressiveness and utter indoctrinated belief that he is right and everyone else is wrong. he must have some troubles in his life to become this angsty. sad!
| >>522928
>ending a rant with an abrupt "sad!"
Trumpcuck detected.
>>522866
Colloquially, for a large portion of society who aren't as up-to-date, certainly, but that doesn't mean we shouls just keep overlapping the two terms. And gender being a social construct is more a factor of what we as humans have decided to allocate to each gender on top. We can define femininity as being softer and more aligned with compassion, then assosciate it with behaviors of cis/trans girls, but
| at the same time one has to acknowledge these things are often only based on tendencies & are not going to be the be-all-end-all of how we express ourselves. We can say that it's out of the ordinary for a cis woman to be a motorcycle gang member, but that is only because we are comparing it to the artificial filter of what each gender means, given that capacity to operate a two wheeled motor vehicle isn't inherently locked in based on the gender expressed in the brain's makeup.
| >>522958 you can argue it's only a "large portion" but it's been that way for many years before people tried to change the definition, why change the definition of already existing words instead of creating a new term like gender identity?
| >>522962 now you haven't explicitly stated what your term "gender" is but what I'm reading is it's the stereotype of femininity or masculinity, which I don't understand why you're calling gender but ok, the thing is, they're stereotypes no one says women have to be caring but that perception exists because it's common for women to be caring and in men stoicism seems popular, does that mean no men are caring and must not feel emotion, no 1/2
| >>522970 , no it's just a mental shortcut to help us navigate through the world, our brains create stereotypes so they don't have to work as hard and there's nothing inherently wrong in that, some people's actions because of the serotypes in their head are wrong but that's on them not society as a whole
| A bunch of girls arguing if liking girls is gay.
The g/u/rl just wanted to say she find trans girl cute.
A girl that find girls cute are usually gay. There's nothing to discuss.
| >>522997
It's never been in debate that danger/u/ should be full of super gay girls, why else would it be /u/?
Unfortunately it's just that of those girls very few are cis and of those cis girls none would want to cuddle with the rest of us girls... :/
| >>523192 this is the thing I don't understand, why would you wish someone suicide if you say you want to treat them properly
Me thinks hypocrisy is blooming
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| it's the truth