Post number #265675, ID: fd67f7
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So like I definitely feel that'd I'd be happier if I was born female. But I can't get past the idea of throwing away a perfect male body to chase that fantasy. Then there's the doubt that transitioning will make me so much happier that it justifies the financial and emotional cost. Plus, I'm still in high school and living in a conservative area. I want to be a woman, but I want to be a real woman, not a fake one. No shame to those that have transitioned, idk if it's for me though.
Post number #265694, ID: 49ee07
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Yeah probably. You might want to ask on a forum with lots trans people in it though. Something something gender dysphoria.
Post number #265756, ID: 9a9ccd
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No. You're likely just over thinking things and letting yourself 've influenced by current year trends in the same way a hypochondriac will be convinced that he has whatever new bug has been circulating the news rings. Sit down, think rationally, and dont listen to the internet.
VISIT A REAL DOCTOR.
Post number #266413, ID: b31269
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Most "normal" people dont question their own gender. r/asktransgender might be a better place to be looking for answers.
Your counselors at school may also be able to help if you're brave enough to share this to them.
Post number #266415, ID: f6dd59
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No, you are not trans. Being trans is not a real thing, it's a mental illness. Recognising the inherent unfairness between what is expected of each sex and wishing you were in better circumstances is normal, it doesn't make you "stuck in the wrong body" or any of that bullshit.
Post number #266426, ID: 9a9ccd
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^^^This^^^
Post number #266455, ID: b31269
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>>f6dd59 gender dysphoria is the mental illness and the cure is transitioning.
Post number #266485, ID: 94f01d
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>>f6dd59 Oh fuck off with that
Post number #266506, ID: d7c34d
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Maybe don't get advice from this board? Best of luck with your weiner issues
Post number #266511, ID: 1dfec6
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Go to a doctor if you think so. Do not go to a trans forum if you're a trap / crossdresser they will say you are suppressing that your trans. Do not trust them. Go to a doctor
Post number #266513, ID: 49ee07
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All these people recommending doctors need to quit it with the doctor worship. Doctors don't no jack shit about trans issues, you want a gender psychologist or psychiatrist. A sex psychologist may also be educated on the subject, but they tend to specialize more in sexual dynamics and victims of sexual abuse.
Post number #266522, ID: 041d63
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>>266513 Psychiatrist is a doctor Dumbfuck
Post number #266561, ID: 9a9ccd
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>>266513 I'm pretty sure doctors know way more than some dipshit on the internet. >>266455 does that include when transitioning is seen as a mistake and leads to more problems?
OP should see a doctor, a REAL DOCTOR, and ignore twits on the internet.
Post number #266573, ID: 7c9a0f
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Being trans is a meme. Being a woman is about repleneshing life on earty, raising children the way you want the to be raised, the flow of intuition via. having periods.
Putting female hormones into yourself will turn you into a castrated, feminized male:spiritually and physically.
Don't consult some goverment-paid psyop ''doctor''.Go to a real spiritual mentor(temple/church):Buddhist/Hindu/Christian and you will get real help. Inb4 fedora tipping, God is not real.(yuh, ok)
Post number #266586, ID: eed7ed
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>>266573 Jesus Christ dude do you need some one to take you out of the 15th century? Being a woman it's just that, living as a woman. She could be wrestling beard and cutting trees and crushing stones with her own hands and she would still be a woman. If she want to be a she then she is a she, doesn't matter if they have a cock big enough to strangle you with it. The point is, get your ass off /new/, /Pol/, wherever the incels went and start acting like a normal human being.
Post number #266590, ID: eed7ed
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>>265675 I'm sure your trans, people at asktransgender can help you more. Usually questioning yourself is a sing of you being a trans, go to a psychiatrist and I'm sure you could figure it out better than on the internet. Also even if your not trans then at least you'll explore a part of you and most likely you'll know more about you.
Post number #266601, ID: b31269
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>>266561 those cases happen significantly less then people completing the transition process.
You've probably met a trans person and didnt even know it.
>>265675 you should probably look for help elsewhere on this.
Post number #266616, ID: 3503db
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So...I'm trans. I've been on hormones for a while, and I've shared all of OP's concerns. In my only opinion, its worth doing research and asking your doctor about, but also I should mention hormones do make a huge difference. It doesnt change every aspect of you, but it does help you feel more like yourself. Just stay informed, talk to people you trust, and think a lot about it. Also..look into the surgery but I dont think you should get it. It sucks.
Post number #266626, ID: 63c734
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>>265675 >me irl but I go with the radical feminist thesis that gender is a social construct. So to be honest everything we associate with a gender should be that social construct too. So all the characteristics you assume you will get from transitioning can be archived with your body right now. Or thats what I'm telling myself. Like being cute and wholesome, or strong in another sense. Or what ever you tell yourself.
Through following this thesis I'm kinda a gender abolitionist. Like of course there is sex. Like the science side of things. But that doesn't mean that thats have to have any impact in your social life. Like what impact does your star sign have? I'd say not really any. So why can't be gender/sex that way. You have it, people might associate things with it, but they don't treat you any different.
And nope I'm not a fucking liberal, ima commie <3 >>266626
Post number #266661, ID: 5f6ebc
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>>266573 wtf is this religious bullshit stop
Post number #266662, ID: 5f6ebc
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"trans is a meme" how about kys
Post number #266674, ID: 55c58e
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>>266590 And I'm sure YOU are trans, so go cut your cock off and remove yourself from the gene pool ASAP
Same with you OP, remove your dick and balls so that you don't pass your retardation on to the next generation.
Post number #266689, ID: 5ab492
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>>266674 you realise you are on danger/u/ right? the text board full of trap lovers and fembois
Post number #266708, ID: d76824
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>>266689 YOU mean faggot and people that will be very unhappy the moment they hit 25? Trans IS a meme.
Post number #266712, ID: d76824
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But really shoving hormones in you and castrating yourselfbisnt going to fix anything. You won't REALLY be a woman, just a useless male. You'll jump into a rabbit hole you wont be able to climb out of when things start going south. See a doctor, op.
Post number #266715, ID: 5f6ebc
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>>266712 useless male lol. I have many tans friends who are happy just saying.
Post number #266723, ID: d76824
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Yep. And I know one whose life got worse. Started off as a pretty great guy. Loved biking and even though he was absolute shit, was really into fighting games. Got me into them, actually. Then one day he up and decides that had rather live as a female and so, being a friend, I supported him through it all. The hormone business and the surgery he had apparently been saving quite a lot of his spare money to afford (or help afford, since his parents were behind him
Post number #266724, ID: d76824
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>>266723 since it would make him happy. And for a while he really did seem happier.smiled more often, we drank sometimes, and even started to win some guilty gear. Really I was starting to thing that this was going to be a major turning point for her. Until she hung himself. Parents were devastated and frankly I don't think they'll ever really be the same since they lost their son. I know that I won't forget, since either he didn't want to worry me, or didn't see me worth telling
Post number #266727, ID: d76824
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>>266724 I just know that whatever happened it happened AFTER all that mess started. I'm not going to sit here and say I dobtbhave a strong bias against it, but I sure as shit won't tell someone else to go down that same rabbit hole. Even if it just means shitposting on some godforsaken imageboard
Post number #266744, ID: 37e3e4
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^I'm sorry for it and I wish she rest in peace. But it doesn't mean that being trans it's bad, people hate changes and when some guy tell you she is a girl people just don't accept it, that brings to hate from them and depression and suicide tendencies for the victim of such hate, that's what it happen to trans people who aren't accepted for who they care, of course some peeps are stronger than others but some end that way. Search for leelah alcorn, it's a good read about the topic
Post number #266759, ID: b31269
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>>266724 I really, really dont want to be rude in saying this, but it probably wasnt them being trans that caused them to hang themselves. A large majority of people who are trans also tend to suffer from depression/similar. Transistioning made them happy, as you said, so it was likely some other problem that caused it.
Sorry for your loss.
Post number #266787, ID: cf3caf
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as you might be able to tell, transexuality is a subject we just dont know enough about. i personally think that its a real thing, and if you do feel like you dont belong in a male body that's valid, but be cautious and wait a while before making any decisions based on it cuz theres a LOT of controversy and hate around transexual people on the net right now. be sure of yourself before you do anything also it costs hella money
Post number #266830, ID: ba30f3
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>>266759 maybe the hormones fucked with their psyche tho
one side effect of antidepressants is also the possibility of suicide. because it fucks with your psyche..
Post number #268229, ID: 15be56
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>>266830 Gee ya think? Dumping female hormones into a male body and suppressing the male hormones, wow imagine that. A large percentage of trannies kill themselves, including a coworker of mine. Society is fucking ill, this kind of thing is exactly what leads to Hitler.
Post number #268522, ID: 07f924
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>>268229 The main reason the trans suicide rate is so high is mainly due to chuds like you creating a society hostile to them, https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/8b3eqt/comment/dx3n7l9 if you don't believe me clicking one of the links provided posted in that thread.
Post number #269235, ID: d7c34d
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OP whatever you decide, please reach out to your support network. But also don't take this kind of thing lightly or you WILL regret it when it gets difficult to deal with new feelings. IMO some people look to this kind of thing to fix their problems but it's not as easy as that. Living as a woman carries its own issues, and adding trans onto that complicates things too. Just trying to say, be careful. Full disclosure - I'm not trans or have any trans friends
Post number #269800, ID: 55c58e
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>>268522 Yes, it is society that is wrong! Cutting your dick off and wearing a dress is not the problem!
Post number #269862, ID: 07f924
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>>269800 yup, if you clicked any of the links in the thread I linked to you see that the previous factor considered (hormones) isn't the cause of suicide, so another factor must be considered, and environment (see legal and societal discrimination) is seen to be that factor in most academic circles that deal with addressing the issue of suicide rate of trans individuals.
Post number #269868, ID: 07f924
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Anyway I do hope OP seeks help from a gender psychiatrist to so they can put their mind at ease about this question at least.
Post number #269873, ID: 55c58e
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>>269862 And if you did your own thinking instead of outsourcing you would realise that people treat them weird (causing social alienation) because they are weird. It is not society that needs to change here, it is "trans" people who need to not display their mental illness while expecting people to not be disgusted.
Post number #269920, ID: 07f924
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The only thing I outsourced was a link dump, I came to conclusions I hold on trans people my own, also the same argument was made with gay people when society thought they were mentally ill for being gay, and newsflash jackass, society accepts them now and the same will happen with trans people, or to put it more consicely your a fucking Chud, society always changes.
Post number #269933, ID: 07f924
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I forget to add >>269873 in that post.
Post number #269948, ID: 72c0a0
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Aight so some of these replies are kinda a pisstake but just talk to a doctor or someone similar and they can find out if you have gender dysphoria which is what makes people transgender. Gender dysphoria is when ur brain and body don't match up and its a horrible feeling to have. Luckily i only get dysphoria rarely. But when i do have those moments. It hitd hard.
Post number #269990, ID: 55c58e
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>>269920 Yes, Jews have brainwashed us into thing fags are people too. Soon being straight will be a crime and our extinction will be complete.
Post number #269997, ID: 6c43ed
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>>269990 so I was right about you being fucking Chud, step up to the platform and receive your prize like all the other Chuds before you.
Post number #270144, ID: 35010d
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>>55c58e HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Post number #270740, ID: d05b36
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Yea probably. Cis people usually don't feel any of that. Sorry. Being trans fucking sucks :/
Post number #272285, ID: 55c58e
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>>270740 Being trans is not a real thing you LARPing invalid
Post number #272294, ID: 5f6ebc
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>>272285 wow, get of danger/u/ now
Post number #272431, ID: 305ad4
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>>272285 you're being extremely unwholesome, please cut that out.
Post number #272547, ID: 6c43ed
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>>272285 Fuck off Chud
Post number #272627, ID: 0aa05a
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>>b31269 >Depression is the illness and suicide is the cure.
Post number #272633, ID: 0bb8d2
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Sometimes, I wish I was born a gurl too ... Then I dress as a Miko, and everything's better (:
Post number #272634, ID: 0aa05a
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Honestly "gender dysphoria" is like the only mental illness where people encourage you to do what the mental illness tells you. What the hell is that all about?
And then we're supposed to accept you for who you are after you couldn't even accept yourself? Get real.
Post number #272646, ID: 75f978
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>>272633 Because nothing else has been proven to work. Transition reduces gender dysphoria, but forcing trans people to act as their assigned gender, hormone treatment with gender incongruent hormones, and refusal to acknowledge their gender identity only worsens the condition. The suicide rates of trans people recieving proper care and being allowed to transition plummet. Nothing else has that effect. That's why transition IS the treatment.
Post number #272648, ID: 75f978
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I meant to aim at >>272634 But I can't aim.
Post number #272743, ID: 305ad4
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>>272634 yeah cause when you have diseases that make you tired and desire rest like fevers and flus the real treatment is to rest as little as possible, what a bullshit disease, right?
Fairly certain that transitioning methods generally heighten depression and introduce a whole different issue for the human psyche, thus giving us the statistic that trans people have higher suicide rates. The body isn't prone to accept hormones it's not naturally creating, so it certainly has no positive consequences on the mind. "I feel like a girl" pales in comparison to "I ruined my natural processes and want to die."
What are you even saying? That analogy has got to be the lowest-energy attempt at reasoning I have ever seen. I can't begin to decipher what the point is you're trying to make.
Are you saying that people suffering from gender dysphoria should rest and let their body recover? Or are you saying that the influenza virus naturally takes over your entire body and you live as the influenza virus for the rest of your life?
Post number #273261, ID: 15be56
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>>272646 We should reduce the causes rather than treat the symptoms. This is not a "natural" mental illness, something is causing a spike in reported cases of gender dysphoria. One of the causes seems to be the marketing of feminine beauty products, Brazil saw a big increase in transgender cases when such products and procedures became heavily marketed. The reasoning was that if you could "buy" the benefits of female beauty, you would be advantaged by doing so.
Post number #273268, ID: 15be56
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>>273261 To reduce this incentive towards femaleness we need to stop demonizing men for acting like men. Typical male behaviour is not "toxic masculinity" as the blue-haired cat ladies would have us think. Women don't need to be encouraged into STEM fields, the incentives are already there they just don't want to hang out with greasy nerds all day. When we fox these (and other) things, gender dysphoria will fade just like it did in Weimar Germany.
Post number #273302, ID: 259085
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>>273159 I am taking HRT right now and I can personally tell you that it doesn't cause depression (except cyproterone but that's from B1 deficiency a multivitamin will fix). Any issues post getting the right hormones are from society/failing to pass/mental health issues present unrelated to dysphoria. And yes there can be regular depression along side it. But that means we should work on both, not pretend transition will fix depression or depression Mrs will fix dysphoria.
Post number #273304, ID: 259085
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>>15be56 Gender dysphoria is being more reported and reported earlier because of an upswing in trans knowledge. The information is out there now to understand what you're feeling sooner than ever. It has nothing to do with marketing beauty products. That theory makes no sense EVEN IF we disregard the fact that trans guys exist. All trans people aren't women.
Post number #274143, ID: a7c6b9
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i feel like long-winded vitriolic arguments like these without any consideration to the OPs feelings are part of why transgender people have a hard time. maybe. possibly. small chance.
Post number #274303, ID: e4618b
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>>274143 That's because OP needs to stop being an attention whoring retard and get his head straight. One day we will string up you idiots encouraging him to ruin his life.
Post number #274416, ID: 0e4ff3
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>>274303 no, one day you retards will be widely derided for your backwards ass irrational preaching about the way it used to be.
Post number #275381, ID: 15be56
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>>274416 Using the word "retard" is offensive and derogatory to people with mental differences. Please refrain from using this hurtful word or you will be socially ostracised.
Post number #275658, ID: a9850a
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If your body can partially turn into a weapon then heck yea you're trans
Post number #275672, ID: 5f6ebc
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I wish I was a transformer...
Post number #276746, ID: 01db34
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I don't know why this reminds me to the manga/anime Ranma 1/2
Post number #277987, ID: edba3a
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>>275381 Fuck off concern troll.
>>274303 The day after we'll put Chuds like you in front of a firing squad.
Post number #278499, ID: 15be56
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>>277987 >concern troll >white knighting the mentally ill and their supporters Peak soyboy I'm thinking
Post number #278673, ID: eed7ed
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>>278499>soyboy Dude where do you think you are? Cause I'm pretty sure everyone here would inject soy straight to their hearts if soy make you more feminine.
Post number #278738, ID: 73a018
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>>278499 soyboi is a compliment not an insult darling
Post number #278780, ID: edba3a
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>>278499 what, are you telling me that showing solidarity with marginalized groups to help end the oppression they suffer in society is a bad thing?
If that's the case fuck off.
Post number #278782, ID: edba3a
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Also thanks for the compliment.
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| So like I definitely feel that'd I'd be happier if I was born female. But I can't get past the idea of throwing away a perfect male body to chase that fantasy. Then there's the doubt that transitioning will make me so much happier that it justifies the financial and emotional cost. Plus, I'm still in high school and living in a conservative area. I want to be a woman, but I want to be a real woman, not a fake one. No shame to those that have transitioned, idk if it's for me though.