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[Meta] How to Talk to Newbies
| Perhaps they made a small mistake. Perhaps their character's name is cliched. What should you say in this situation?
I'll tell you what you SHOULDN'T do: criticize their writing in character. Never tell the writer in character why their plan is bogus. If it's that bad, tell them OOC.
Don't make up lore. You should not make stuff up just to seem more knowledgeable than someone else - especially a newbie.
| What you SHOULD do:
Is it a huge mistake? Go ahead and give the author a heads-up in OOC. If it doesn't really affect anything, don't say anything about it.
Tell the author what they did wrong and how to fix it. Don't be condescending and rude because you perceive yourself to be superior.
If we follow these guidelines, this board will be a safer place for new and veteran players alike.
Thanks, and happy running,
IN1
| But I mean, if its in character, like for exemple I play Falschen, the dumb muscle brain vigilente: Its totally like him to say "Yer plan's way too complex fella, and to be fair I just want to Smash things really hard until they go crack"
I believe of course there's points to be had with your argument, and its true some newbies get the condescending treatement, but if you ask me, thats not everyone
Heck, Im a newbie myself, although lurking since december
-Hige
| >>242101
That is different. If your character would say that, go ahead and say it.
I'm more concerned about the players who say things like, "Oh, come on, that's SO cliched" or "<some bullshit lore I made up> so your whole thing is done for"
It's somewhat similar to godmodding, in a way.
-IN1
| I've been lurking here since a month ago, I was actually afraid to join because I thought people would make fun of me for being new and not knowing everything about lore and the characters.
| Thanks for making this thread, I feel a little bit more comfortable.
| >>242107
No problem. I don't like seeing new players treated like that, precisely because it discourages them from joining.
-IN1
| Uh ive only been around since a bit before the five min war.
So far nobody seems to give the crazy teleporting german any shit.
It that ok? n3s abilities of matter displacement and manipulation?
>morphine_blues
| I will say it's helpful to follow something harsh in character with a friendly reminder ooc
| >>242105
Yeah, I agree but some newbie act that way too.
Of course in a perfect world we could avoid all godmodding and shit like that
Of course just pulling bullshit lore is not cool
-Hige
| >>242110
I actually really like Cyrus although OP, but atleast you dont force actions you let the GM decide if it works or not
Props for that
-Hige
| One-upping is a serious problem, yeah. Especially in consideration that newbie might very well lack the deeper knowledge of /cyb/'s GC.
The thing is, there isn't any 'deeper knowledge' — when a character mentions anything you're not aware of, chances are, they have an explanation ready in-character.
So, if you're new and have absolutely no idea what is what: it's okay. Don't feel belittled.
(Sidenote: all those vets better start working on the Wiki /s)
| >>242110
Hey Wendy/Tuna Here
also really like Cyrus. If you are questioning if an ability is OP or not I always ask a mod. Particular Stormy cause I can ping her on Discord. But I always ask so as to not overstep my bounds
| >>242117
I found it weird that the wiki didn't help much when I read it. I only know the locations and a few events
| >>242117
>>242116
I didn't want to have to give a specific example of the behavior I was talking about, but eh.
This is repulsive:
> Oh look two robots called adam and eve. How utterly cliche, as if there weren't enough of said cliche.
I think the public can think of a better name.
Srsly all thats needed now is for the conflict to be in flooded and we have ourselves a average overused trope that happens every 2 days.
This is in a thread from today. It's still on the front page.
| >>242116 >>242123
Ah geeze thanks.
I try to hint at the fact that the thing on his neck it the teleport module or whatever.
Thus take out the device, then cyrus is just a german minus the teleport.
I actually gave him that to aid in the sacred art of GTFO.
>N3
| >>242125
>cliche x2
>average overused trope
>happens every 2 days
by god I want to throttle this person
| >>242126
There are a few Discord groups for /Cyb/. I am only in one and the girl who owns it has been busy but you can also post an OOC thread on /cyb/ to ask for advice I did that before I joined the Discord
| It's not really mine to give out. There is a main group for /cyb/ that I am not apart of. I can ask on your behalf but they will probrably want to know who you rp as. Also What's your Discord ID?
>>242133
| >>242139
Sorry That's just how I got added to the Discord was by posting my Discord ID to /cyb/ and I Didn't want to post a link to the discord on /cyb/ since its not mine nor do I own it. Any suggestions CN?
| I could just make a throwaway account first then get them to add my real account.
| If anyone wants the ID of poor boy depresso mastero Hige
Well here it is:
DukeEagleton#3541
| The only thinf I fear is god, penguins and small objects placed at anything less than 90 degree angles
-Hige
|
| Lol unfortunately Discords says you Don't exist unless I am just failing at technology atm
| Nevermind I just Can't technology
| should have a friend request now o3o
| >>242143
I mean whatever is most comfortable for them. Just wanted to say since its private info and all that. Could always just wait to see until Stormy checks the board as well. -CN
| Hey I dont really mind, rather if I could make a big discord for my ARG, just imagine mwahahahaha*cough*
-Hige
| Holy hell late to the party, but IN1 it's been awhile -KN
| >>242168
Everytime I see you I always scream to myself
"I need to continue in the depths"
AND THEN I DONT BECAUSE IM TRASH........
-Hige
| To be fair, there's probably a few old souls from before December that got used to the really small /cyb/ group and the better connectivity that came from the small size. I just kinda wormed my way in sometime last year in the summer. Maybe earlier. I dunno I can't remember. It was back when the app was called /u/nited. (Fuck you Anon E, btw) Anyway, some old nerds don't like change. Too fucking bad. Change happens. Embrace the newbies. potentially kill them. Get customers.
-RaIn
| So to clarify, what's the problem? -Stormy
| Oh shit. I've only been here a couple weeks now. There's a Discord? lol
| I both do and do not agree with OP.
I agree with:
You shouldn't shittalk newbs over every little shit
Asspulling lore is not nice
Do provide advice
I completely disagree with not badmouthing in-character. Yes, you are a nice person. Your character does not have to be. Sometimes your character is just that: a huge fucking asshole. You should not take things said in-character as serious player's opinion instead.
—UKT
| Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the points OP is trying to make is that this distinction might not be very clear for newcomers. So being overly harsh, even in character, might drive them away.
>>242193 >>242200
##Janitor:Stormy##
| After taking some time to read over the thread, I have a few comments:
>>242100
Do not backseat moderate. Passive aggressiveness/criticizing someone's writing in character may be a sometimes assholish thing to do, with the example cited being particularly savage... for no reason.
However, except for when its obvious, which is uncommon, it is not possible to determine the difference between characters that are assholish in character, and roleplayers themselves being assholish. Regardless, players should not take offense to what is happening in character, no matter the situation. You are not your character. You are a writer on a roleplaying board.
>>242097
Do not -assume- that just because lore is revealed to be inconvenient that it was made up on the spot, just because you were not previously aware of it or because it is not recorded on the wiki. This is an intentional possibility, both to simulate being ignorant in real life (as there is no wiki on complete strangers), and due to logistics (adding information to the wiki is time consuming. While it is true that this can be abused, that is one of the accepted consequences of the board's otherwise lenient roleplay policy.
Incidentally, do not also assume that the poster was "a veteran" lest you be an "elitist" yourself.
>>242110
Thank you for allowing the GM to decide when/whether or not your teleporter device functions as intended.
>>242117
One upping is an unfortunate possibility that is part of the otherwise lenient rules in this environment.
>>242133
Our discord is invite only at this time, although the other discords may let you in if you ask.
>>242193
^ A summary of my TLDR above.
| Praise Stormy!
-RaIn
##Janitor:Stormy##
| >>242209
That's unfortunate, but unless English is their second language, a user who cannot determine OOC from IC should not be roleplaying.
| Just gonna ask outright.
Am I terrible, seeing as I'm a newbie to /cyb/ as well
-tomato
| >>242338
Seeing how you've been doing, absolutely not! You're doing very well; keep up the good work.
> Virtual thumbs up was raised clear!
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| i, all. My name is IN1, and I'd like to talk to you about TALKING TO NEWBIES.
As a former newbie myself, I can say with certainty that the attitudes of other /cyb/orgs were a deciding factor in whether I felt welcome or not.
I came to /cyb/ during the December Riots and was accepted almost immediately.
However, as I sit and watch on the sidelines, I notice that the attitudes of others towards newbies is elitist and condescending. (cont)