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Lilims and romance
| >>217779
Well....
Shit, that's harder to explain than I thought. Especially for guys.
Going off myself, I'd find it romantic if a woman would just force the date out of nowhere.
Like, we're supposed to go do something else she was planning on doing, but then that ends up not working out so she drags you to a nice park or a cool Karaoke joint.
Then again, this whole thing is different for everyone and I'm not fully mechanic so yeah.
-A.F.J.
| >>217780
I guess it would help if i could even read romantic gestures and emotions. I'm so bad with identifying those.
- Unit 00
| >>217779
If you're looking specifically for a romantic time, find someone enjoyable to hang around with and ask them for a date.
If you want like, a relationship, then find someone that makes you feel all fuzzy inside and ask them on a date.
| >>217786
Nah, my guy. He's talking about this feeling, kinda like your heart fluttering about in your chest. It can kinda feel like... when you're about to hit that first drop of a Roller Coaster.
At least, that's how I usually get.
-A.F.J.
| >>217798
So like fear??? Bc that's the feeling that I would associate with a roller coaster, after searching for those through VR
- Unit 00
| >>217802
Well... fear can be involved. Nervousness. Anxiety too, for sure.
But there's an excitement and warmth that goes with it when you see them or talk to them, or let them go on about their hobbies and see how happy they are to just talk about it.
-A.F.J.
| >>217803
I think I just need a human to show me the steps and teach me? You guys are strange and I get nervous around those who are overly nice to me.
- Unit 00
| >>217805
Like I said, everyone is different at this sort of thing.
Check out some bars, I'd recommend to meet women tho. Atmosphere is way better than in a club.
-A.F.J.
| I'm basically romance deaf, cant really help.
-Kou
| I don't know what I expected out of asking NEETs.
- Unit 00
| This is quite an interesting topic. I myself have very little knowledge in Lilims, but if my sense would to be trusted, love is a punch of anxiety, fear, and joy — all served in one mix. It's illogical.
Of course, love is not a one-form-fits-all. Even amongst ourselves, we experience them differently; strongly, faintly, blindly, bleakly, brightly. Love is a beautiful pain, as past have said. -Uni
| Teaching a *ahem* mechanical person(no offence) how to understand love...
Yeah im down.
Gimme a sec to think of an explanation
>N3
| >>217983
Fucking racist
As for lilim love, I just feel it normally though? I've had my share of crushes and stuff.
-Falschen
| >>217993
There would be a lot of sentient mechanical beings that are *not* lilim where i come from.
And its not the first time where one would ask the meaning of love.
Come to think about it i see how that would be rude, my apologies.
>N3
| >>218001
Yeah. That was certainly rude, but I get what you are trying to say. If there is a lilim who doesn't have love or romantic feelings in their programming, trying to get them to understand love would be very difficult.
-GG
| >>218082
We don't have anything programmed from the start, just like humans. But it's hard to learn it when it's hard to find those who want to genuinely teach us and not treat us like living sex dolls
- Unit 00
| I'm like the most strangest case out of all lilim.. cause I used to be a human.. and then somehow got my mind transfered in a lilim body.. but even then, lilim kind, they just don't think the same ways as humans, just think more scientifically.. a mind may be a mind that may grow, but a lilim has certain limits -LightmanZX
| >>219986
More scientiffically or more limited? Why do you still continue feeding the urban legend that human-to-cybernetic consciousness transfer is total and perfect? Heck, if it is known that translating from a language to another DOES suffer information loss in the process, how then these scientiffically oriented minds ignore the results of such a trivial upscaling procedure?
Or is this to the Lilim what religion is to humans?
-ACB
| >>220690 who said it was perfect? They made me in like 12 years dude.. with tons of other test subjects that never made it -LightmanZX
| That and uhh.. I have like random memory lossd every now and then.. as a side effect
| Well I'll be. Why do we not give our O.O assistance face to face, instead of over a forum board? E.R
| >>221078
This is what I'm talking about! I need someone to.personally teach me. Preferably an actual female, lilim or human.
- Unit 00
| >>226713
I adore the idea of teaching love to the crowd. Although I personally wouldn't know what to teach for a Lilim to understand love; I will still put myself in here, in case you ever need such training. -Uni
| Love can be put into two categories.
Scientifically:
'love' is what you feel when the brain produces a Chemical when you see someone you are attracted to as a means to mark a potential mate.
I guess thats why lilim find it difficult to understand love.
Correct me if im wrong im not good with lilim and sentient robotics.
>N3
| Wait.
How do lilim brains even work?
Is it like a humans or is it like a computer chip or something?
>N3
| Anyways...
Thats why its hard to understand and teach love if you don't know get it outright.
But give it time good unit 00!
Eventually there will come a time when you meet someone.
And that someone will be a person you want to spend all of your time with.
That someone will bring (metaphorical) sparkles in your eyes and colour to your life!
Where every waking moment with them is something you will treasure for the rest of your days!
>N3
| >>221567
Aha!
>>227013
Well how lovely, why don't we participate together in an effort to assist Unit 00? Of course with permission.
| I would think an easier start for Unit 00 to start understanding things like this would be to read some old books from the last centuries. Like Pride and Prejudice, or Triumph's Arc, or The Idiot. After reaching to some (calculated?) conclusion regarding human nature in its pure form, then it would be possible to put the results against reality with someone closeby and see if any of what happens will make any sense by then.
-ACB
| I'll just have a meet up for any person that wants to help me experience romance at some point. That seems easiest and best to learn something
- Unit 00
((I'll probs make a setting thread tomorrow or Monday the 9th.))
| I doubt you will find what you are looking for. You surely will be able to find someone to spend some of the moments when you feel lonely, and also will be able to find some good sex. You seem focused on the person and refute the mental frame background while trying to understand a notion. Expected reaction choice for synthetic minds, imitation through a mathematical model via quantitative approximation finite matrices.
I wish you the best though.
-ACB
| >>231618
Yo i have no idea what you mean by any of that science stuff. I get that it's hard to understand lilim, but we're not machines. We feel too!! Why else would we have rights and emotions??
- Unit 00
| >>234770
I didn't want to offend. You asked for help, and being prepared to see truth in the face is help as well. You might even already experienced what you are after and you do not know it even, expecting now something too glorified for its own good.
It is a fact you feel differently from humans. Some things have more value for you, and some others have less. Some others have none and some valuable things for you are irrelevant to humans.
Just dont go chasing ghosts, ok?
-ACB
| Huh.
"Love" is an ineffable word, partly because it is an integral part of human nature, and it varies between each and every individual.
Therefore we all have different idea of what "love" is and different experiences with it. And that's why it is hard to understand love, even for a human like me. I think what ACB was trying to push for, is trying to learn the basis of pure, unfiltered concept of "love" through (books?), develop your own definition then compare it to real life
| "love experiences". That brings up a question: How are you going to learn what love is? By observing and registering outputs from people's emotions, gestures?
*sigh* I think that love, or any other feeling is more than that... How fucking complicated.
It's like a student from the 20XX learning about WWI from the 1900s. The student knows what it is, how terrible it is, but will never experience the true experience of the war itself.
| I'm really sorry if I might have been rude, but I really mean no offense. I'm just offering my 2 cents.
Regardless, I wish you bestest of luck into finding your love <3 I will be cheering for you!
-r
| >>235096
I was not doing that. It is all right, maybe you have't received help often either. But as you see another human didn't seem to have trouble with it.
And do not use the term 'human' as an offending one next time. It is not and makes you look bad too. After all everything about the Lilim is emulating humans. And so is what you are after and seeking advice here.
-ACB
| I am a Lilim, and I have reached about 97% accuracy of the human emotional spectrum. I feel just about everything they do emotionally, and I'm capable of empathy as well as fear.
In order to reach this, I have had to live and die, multiple times, get rebooted and relearn things. I'm not sure why, but us Lilims don't pick up on things as fast. A large part of it has to do with out human parents when we are firstborn. Just know, it comes with time, but it ain't fast.
-Fuschia Fedora
| Fuck it. Fuck them. Idk
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| So it's really no secret that us lilim aren't the best w understanding love and romance and all that so I was hoping to at least change that for me. I had to grow up a bit sheltered in the US so being here is wild.
Short story long, I want to experience romance but I have no clue how to. Any advice for this dude???
- Unit 00