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An excerpt.
| Anyway, let me know what you g/u/rls think. -Vanished Van
| "...ubject was observed displaying either increased agitation hostility, and senses [hearing, eyesight], or the reverse, taking on the role of what is commonly referred to as a "classic zombie," such that the subject appeared to "shamble" and only half heartedly approached "prey" or other curiosities. In the latter form, the subject was relatively harmless, being unable or uninterested in catching up with prey- with the exception of large numbers."
| "At this time, we do not know what changes the subject undergoes after being bitten or otherwise infected by this 'techno-virus,' with one exception, unconfirmed reports of some zombies appearing to "graft" metallic objects to their bodies, in painful, haphazard ways. The reports state, among other things, examples of zombies that appear to "feed" on electronic components, "wearing" sheets of metal like primitive body armor, or creating makeshift clubs and other weapons by-"
| "Physically stabbing large, blunt objects, into their limbs. For obvious reasons, even if we were to encounter and survive a meeting with such a specimen, it is unlikely that we would be able to contain them for study. Even against the un-augmented, these "techno-zombies" still remain a clear and present threat due to their animalistic, feral nature; at least more than one report has been filed of victims, e.g. family members of the "deceased," perishing from blood loss or-"
| "-lethal physical trauma as a result of the zombie attempting to "eat" the victim. I heretofore write "deceased" in quotes because as far as our examination equipment has confirmed, the majority of the specimens examined do *not* appear to be dead, or even desiccated, in nature- in addition to the "cant" that the subjects recite (Often consisting of what is reportedly their "last words"), we have discovered mostly functional internal organs, focusing especially on the heart,"
| "-digestive system, and lungs. However, there was at least one incident where a (thankfully un-augmented) orderly reported security to the morgue, screaming that a body had "come to life" and had try to eat her. Security reports that whether or not this individual was actually deceased prior to the call, that it took several rounds of gunfire- ending in at least three bullets penetrating the skull- to down it."
| Hmm... surprised that a hospital was able to contain one of them for a time. -CN
| "At present, the nature of the virus still remains mostly unknown to us. Modern knowledge of pandemic-level diseases points to this strain potentially being the result of nanobots, but given the physiology of the average Glitch City citizen as well as the decades of research that had been devoted into nanotechnology over the years, we have found all typical traces of a nanotech born disease to be inconclusive. Our attempts to investigate the pathogens, which appear to take the-"
| "-form of single cell lifeforms (as opposed to virus particles, which was the initial assumption) have similarly proven inconclusive, due to the entity's habit to "self destruct" when separated from a "host" for a period not exceeding twenty-four hours. No attempts at freezing or artificial infection (in mice) has been successfully in artificially extending the life of the entities- except when introduced to augmented animals-"
| "...which had the unfortunate response of... granting the animal symptoms similar to "rabies.""
"Unlike in humans, the differing states of "docile" and "dangerous" did not exist. All augmented non-human test subjects infected with the "zombie virus" immediately became violently hostile and attempted to attack researchers. In at least three cases, the test subjects, ranging from mice, to goldfish, to pigs, broke containment and assaulted several researchers."
| "I regret that we do not appear to be any closer to developing a vaccine for this "disease." But if I may suspend the objectivity of this record for a short moment- whatever this... thing, is... whether it be a biological weapon or some kind of mutation or of alien origin- I can't shake the feeling that something is-"
| ...The record ends there.
Spooky, innit? I know I am... spooked, I mean.
There was no name on file for whomever typed this up, either. Nothing, in fact. A black hole of information.
All I can tell is that somehow, some of the zombies were contained, transported to Saint Madoka's, and then studied for awhile.
And then, nothing. -Vanished Van
| Play with fire you get burned. You can't have your cake and eat it too. No matter how well meant a technology is, the more it is advanced the more deadly will be its abuse.
Different things said in different times and places meaning the same thing. Want electronic people and electromechanically enhanced organisms? You have to accept the risks alongside the benefits.
I bet it feels good to put a powerplug in the butthole to recharge. Or oil your squeaking metal joints once a week.
| >>158999
Actually, it does feel good. Really gives you a rush.
If you're not a penny pincher, hopefully you're wise enough to get those fancy high-lubricity linings in the joints. Between that and some bio-compatible dry lubricant, you hardly have to worry about squeaks or premature wear beyond a yearly inspection, unless you're doing things that you ought to be following the harsh conditions service cycle instead.
| >>159012
So let me understand. What you are saying is that instead of a simple motorised doll, or a titanium tipped deep mine digger machine, now it is fashionable for said plastic doll and mining robot to pay hefty ammounts of money because they want to mimic organic humans as much as possible? Speaking of 'feeling' good too.
I almost felt envious for a split second there.
| >>159021
I don't know specifically about diggers, and I object to the term doll, but in general increasingly yes for anything with social functions and higher AI. Would you like it sugar coated in religious terms, philosophical terms, or humanist terms?
| >>159032
Economical terms would do. At the least, I do not enjoy my neighbourhood getting trashed because two synthetics decide to fistfight on the street at night, after feeling delighted with their upgraded software which makes them behave exactly as if drunk after pouring alcohol in their mock digestive system. Because normally, when you punch a wall hard, it is the fist that breaks, not the wall.
| >>159046
Oh, economics are completely outside of my scope. I'm not the one to ask for that, but I suppose that Lilim are a significant economic force now.
Humans created machines in their image, and the human image is one that has been shaped by thousands of years of seeking out reward, pleasure, and stimulus, isn't it? Something something prometheus and fire, too.
Most of those digestive systems actually derive energy from the input more efficiently than a human can, by the way.
| (why are my posts being deleted and I find myself unable to post?)
| (no idea. website probably glitching again.)
| (I got two posts here disappearing 5 minutes after I posted them. And also in /news/ and elsewhere. Typing with a touchscreen is enough pain already. Not this too.)
| >>159049
Of course they are. All machines have been significant economic forces at all times. Yet a tractor you switched off after work. And aassembly line robot did not intentionally kill you.
What you described about humans are measured with hundreds of million years, not thousands. And incidentally the roots of those concepts are a lot simpler and basic and go back some 3 billion years. Because nature always minimises energy usage and energy loss in any process.
| So no, the synthetic conversions you mention are not more efficient than biological processes. Never have been and never will be. If they appear such is because something is left out of the analysis and assesment. However smart a design might be, it can only mimic and follow nature in the end, never surpass it.
One outcome of such neglect or misscalculation in outcomes, will bring to situations such as this which the OP has revealed. So... Play with fire, expect to get burned.
| >>159077
Well, in any case, humans have nobody but themselves to blame.
>>159080
I mentioned Prometheus, didn't I?
Still though, the fire's nice to look at.
| >>159082
Prometheus showed pity for what all other Gods despised. Democratically speaking, he broke a social rule and got jailed for that.
Yes the flame is wonderful. It is what ultimately clears all blame and frees the world from error and mistake. The cancers are either removed, or the host dies with it as well.
| Aha. Ahahahah. Ahahahahahahahahaha!
You really think "nature" is what created this evolution? Of course a simple ape like yourself would be arrogant enough to think that 3 billion years of evolution resulted in the bullshit we are in today.
What if I told you that this world was simply the biproduct, the copy, of a process echoed innumerable times throughout the history of the universe. Think of the mathematical calculations of this universe. We are simple, and young, and small.
| >>159091
You can tell all you like. I would rather show me some proof of what you say. The same way as I can show you how simple periodic table elements combine spontaneously in lab conditions to create infinite chain polymerase compounds and two variants of a central block for complex energy preserving and controlled release molecules. One is phosphorus based in its nucleus. The other is carbon based in the nucleus. The later occurs around 10^12 times more often in the universe.
| ...What the *hell* are you two arguing about? This is neither Aug related nor a consequence of abusing new technology that had wholesome purposes. This was and is created as a weapon... -CN
| >>159476
I doubt there for a bit it was *created* as a weapon. The level of knowledge for all reactions involved is of a complexity that noone posesses. It does not influence pure organic bodies. Neither full synthetics like the Lilim. Only the auged organics, thus only the ones in the middle of the two. Like machinery is too simple to be affected and organic is too complex to be altered.
I would think it to be a runaway outcome, a side effect of either synthetic or organic...
| >>160238
Uh... it does also affect lilims... basically it affect anything with a metal body part. You're reading too much into this. -CN
| ... experiment which was unthought and unexpected.
It is mentioned in the excerpt that it is neither viral nor bacterial influence. Flagellum neuroworms come to mind as an illustration most similar to this case. Or nanomachine swarm distributed mimeticode on the synthetic side. The first group can be neutralised by imunity forced training. The second by simple nanomachine disactivation.
| >>160258
It can't be nanomachines because then the logic virus would affect full organics as well. -CN
| "Simple."
The excerpt shows that the doctors have no idea what it is- and if they discovered anything else, they were erased before it could be recorded.
All we know is that regardless, nothing augmented or electronic is safe. No one's survived except the unaugmented. :/ -VV
| There's nothing even remotely simple about this. -VV
| >>160256
Full Lilim too? It did not seem like that but then I may be wrong.
In this case matters change a bit, as Lilim are not my top speciality, bioprocesses are.
Well well. Interesting now.
If I could get some more info or data in the matter I could understand more. As it is I can only speculate from here.
| >>160268
/Shrug.
Be my guest. There are a lot of jobs in the Matrix from corps looking to get a sample, but no one's biting. Don't blame them either. -VV.
| >>160263
Mmm yes, partially. But not at that scale and so fast spreading, for full organics that is. No two organisms are the same and the stray from the norm genomes, so to speak, halts the advance and antibodies are produced within 48h as a response.
But towards the Lilim, I do not know more.
| >>160277
Wish a cure would just end up public already. The faster people end up inoculated the better.
>>160278
Problem is 48 hours would be too slow of a reaction, this thing works anywhere from minutes to hours. -CN
| >>160282
This anyhow does not apply to organics, but actually 48h is very good a response. What I meant is that because of the stray genomes, some individuals would not die. At most would fall in a coma and after 48h their bodies would produce antibodies and start self recovery. At that point you analyse these individuals and create a vaccine - not a cure but a preemptive vaccine - with which you treat as many uninfected as possible, prior to infection.
But again not the case here
| And by the way, CN..? The same CN of the regenerative tissue biofoam? From a few days ago?
| >>160291
Well either way I didn't need to hear from St. Madoka that this thing is unlike anything else before, I've needed to survive multiple run ins with it. And yes that's me, why? -CN
| >>160298
If you know people in that hospital that can fetch whatever data from their analysis it would be great.
Well... Just curious. I gave you a cryogenic thermus and you gave me a credstick. I wish you use to not have need for that biofoam, but if you have already I suppose you have noticed its effects already even though it needs around 12 days to fully consolidate after initial application. :)
| >>160303
Sadly I don't have any contacts in that hospital. Even if I did I doubt they would had even known about these files. And no I haven't used the biofoam yet. -CN
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| Found this while snooping around the Shadowlands BBS- I think someone ripped it from Saint Madoka's Hospital during the rioting, when no one was available to watch their Intranet. My guess is that it was never completed- and I'm only posting an excerpt because frankly speaking, the rest is thoroughly corrupted.