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Fate/Apocrypha
| A 7v7 grail war is an interesting concept, but all the battles were basically 1v1s. Sieg was also the least interesting character to be the main character.
| 1. Ep 1 have so much exposition and already reveal almost all the servants identity
2. Fight scenes are a bunch of servants teleporting and doing incomprehensible shit because they are too lazy animating it
3. Sound effects are deafening, It felt like I was watching a dubstep ear-rape AMV
3. Appearance. Not just the loli and the trap, just look at Khrisna's and Siegfried armor. Looks so impractical and taken from a boss on a random MMORPG with too much unnecessary frills
| I failed with my numbering
| Okay
1 If you are going to Fate for realistic armor you are going to be disappointed really quick
2 How did you not know about Jack being a loli and Astolfo being a boy? They are among the more popular Fate characters
I'm guessing that you are new to Fate
| Also the anime was decent, it didn't really break any new ground but it did have some moments. It's an Allright action anime but not nearly as good as Zero or UBW
| >>168975 I've only played F/SN Visual Novel, watched the Old UBW movie, watched F/SN by Ufotale, and Fate/Zero by Ufotable.
I'm not asking realistic armor, but just go compare Khrisna's armor to others characters from F/SN or F/Zero. It looks like the meme armor which appear when people think of "high level armor" in RPGs.
>How did you not know about Jack
Why do I need to know prior to watching it again? I don't read light novels, nor do interested in playing gacha games
| Even if I knew, it doesn't affiliate my critics towards the character designs
| *alleviate not affiliate, sorry
| Apo sucks because the writing is boring. The MC is a non-character.
I also dislike how it feels way more pander-y than what Fate is supposed to feel like. (F/GO and F/E (+ CCC) are also shit because of this) This is pretty much why Fate is ruined as a franchise to me.
Tsukihime is better anyways
| people whining about sieg cracks me up b/c I'll take blank slate boring protag over the idiot fuckwit that is shirou any day
also apocrypha was originally designed as a mobile game so sieg being blank def. strikes me as "player character" and doesn't bug me that much
| > apocrypha was originally designed as a mobile game
This is a shit argument. "Just because the source material is shit/generic, it's fine for the anime to be shit/generic"
Guess what? It's an anime adaptation
>adaptation
Things are adapted from the source material to fit the new media.
Look at kemono friends, it was also originally a mobile game. Even worse, it has no story. But the anime adaptation adds into it and made it more interesting. That's the whole point of adaptation
| >>170113
>idiot fucktwit
At least Shirou *has* a personality, mind you. He's idiotic, but that's part of his traits and personality.
What do you remember from Sieg apart from being a stoic "humanity confuses me" person?
| Imagine if One Punch Man the anime looks like the source web comic, it will get a lot of shit shit. No one is going to be "Guys it's fine that it looks like shit! Look, the original webcomic looks like shit!"
| I think the choice to reveal all the servants' identities was good though.
I feel like Apo relied heavily on people knowing the backstory of these legends beforehand and that's why they revealed all their names.
And as for Siegfried's armor design, I think it's fine. I mean, the dude's like Achilles, invulnerable. Except for the spot on his back. The only that that really needs protection is his back.
| >>170141 "it doesn't bug me that much" was all I said lmao
>>170147
Isn't this exactly what people say about pop team epic tho?
| I mean, Pop Team Epic is suppose to be shit. They claimed so many things about the anime, but bam.
That was intentional and I think it fully embodies what the author would want cause that dude loves to troll. Just the biggest troll anime, and I love them for that.
| >>170394 allright, sorry that I went overboard. IMO if it already violates the purpose of an adaptation, it's not worth arguing for anymore
| Oh no, normally no, but Pop Team Epic is a special case. Do you actually know about the manga and author?
| Anyway, off-track. This ain't a Pop Team Epic thread. Ya have to know the manga and mangaka to get it.
| Fate was always trash, but it can entartain at times. Fate Zero was nonironically good but everything else was extremely average- from the train wreck that was Fate Stay Night to the newest entries leaching off fanservice. Fate Apocrypha was so laughably bad that it was good, sort of like those Uganda movies.
| My first Fate was Stay Night and i made me want to delete my system32 folder, I only watched Fate/Apocrypha because of the Astolfo trap meme
| At least now i know the bad sounds weren't my tv's problem
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| Why is the general opinion of it is that it is shit?
I thought it was aiight. Definitely did get better during the later half, but overall I enjoyed it a lot.
I'll admit though, Jack the Ripper being a loli was weird as well as Astolfo needlessly being a trap.